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Dont use it unless you know everything aboot it, not becaise its dangerous, but because youll appreciate

>>10019070
wait to go, you proved to everyone that you can't finish a goddamn sentence nor can you use basic grammar skills.

I used one when I was like thirteen. Nothing weird happened while we were using it, but I did the big no-no and put it under the bed. My aunt slept in that bed for like a week and insisted some weird noise from under the bed kept her up all night. She hasn't had a decent night sleep since, and it's been seven years.
I can't say they are or aren't effective, I'm just throwing a passive experience out there.

I've contacted some shit but you never know what's paranormal with these things. They were used ages ago but they were only used by spiritualists and such... hasbro massproduced them or something. I'd recommend not buying one, do it traditionally and make one.

>>10019142

hasbro invented it as a parlour game

invented. it.

>>10019088

>basic grammar skills
>wait to go

way to go, bro.

>>10019153
Yeah. They invented Ouija boards... There were things called Talking boards and spirit boards (actually 'board' wasn't commonly used in the name) and they said to be used to communicate with the dead. They looked nothing like the everyday ouija board.

But yes Hasbro did invent and mass produced the OUIJA board.

>>10019088
Way to go.

>>10019088 Forgot to capitalize some words grammer nazi.

>>10019408
>grammer
oh gawd

>>10019435 yes god.

Remeber, equivelant exchange, if you taking spirits time to talk to you then it will want something in return; and dont be rude, they dont like that, treat them as you would want to be treated
>inb4 grammar nazi derails thread

>>10019655
Remember*
Fuck

>>10019655
lol, equivalent exchange.

>>10019655
Why? They're dead already. Shouldn't they be grateful someone even pays attention to them?

Once had a chat with a guy who's wife was still alive.
Apparently they divorced, he died, and she remarried.

>mfw ghost life is the same as living life.

>>10019684
If some stranger woke you in the middle of the night wouldnt you want a damn good reason
And not all of them were living

>>10019705
And why doesn't the ghost of my grandpa show up and help me get Randi's 1 million dollar prize?

>>10019714
Cant tell if trolling or just very stupid..

>>10019719
Can't tell if has nothing useful to say or just a jerk.

>>10019727
so you were serious?...
Because helping you would do nothing for him

>>10019739
So when I'm dead I won't be able to feel happy about my living loved ones?

>>10019759
Your new to this huh?
Less trivia more talking board stories

>>10019796
Watch your thread sink and die, then.

Or be less snobby about your shit and share it with the only person posting here with genuine interest in learning more.

>>10019821
im an ass, I know, BUT I have good intentions, so what do you want to know about the boards, il share as much as I know.

>>10019796
So much tardery in this thread.

For one, whoever pointed out equivalent exchange actually has a brain, but it's not the exchange that you probably meant.

Spirits have energetic exchange. This lends to the nature of the spirit. Negative spirits have a "negative" energy and thus feed on negativity - eliciting negative emotions through negative actions like telling you when you're going to die, trying to scare you or freak you out, and occasionally when the fear is high enough, manifesting. Manifestations cause intense fear and allow negative spirits to thrive for long periods of time.

The ones to be really careful of though, are the positive spirits. They feed on positivity, obviously. So they, too, can lie to you, but usually telling you things you want to hear/shit that makes you happy/positive. When manifestation occurs, it's the same principle but with positive events (usually). This can be horrible for someone that is psychotically deluded, as the entity could commit any act deemed positive by the person its feeding on and get more energy.

will explain equivalent exchange

>>10019837
Why do you need a board? Cant spirits just manifest themselves? To what extent are those spirits aware of who I am and what my intentions are?

>>10019860
Your the guy from ...last night? Right?

>>10019860
Equivalent exchange is an energetic phenomena so it occurs on multiple levels. Knowledge is inherent of wisdom. Wisdom is basically synonymous with enlightenment. Increased wisdom is increased perception or awareness. When your mind encompasses all, you become all. That's Buddahood, Christ Consciousness; becoming your own shining star, so to say.

Anyways getting back to knowledge, the equivalent exchange is usually a pact or rule set upon the board in its inception. There are spirits called Watchers. They are typically summoned, a rule or pact is set over the board. This is where the equivalent exchange happens. Mainstream boards are made by allowing the spirits to lie if they so choose. The boards are also given inherent elements (Light or Dark) based on their Watcher and the ritual/enchantment used. Most mainstream boards like the Ouija have an inherent Dark element, but not all.

You can figure out the element of the board, and more, by summoning the Watcher. I only recommend this to advanced users as newbies have the tendency to accept many false spirits as summoning a Watcher can manifest positive or negative emotions pretty easily (especially if they lie about changing elements or answering more complex questions). Will go into detail more...

Bump

>>10019932
Ok id like to know where you got this info.
I was in another thread you were explaining this in and I didnt get the chance to ask you.
For a while I felt alone inthis thread after op left

>>10019932
Watchers are higher level spirits that oversee energetic exchange from different planes. There are certain rules to maintain balance, varying in nature and location. When there is a spirit doing this job over a board, it is a Watcher. Sometimes you have personal Watchers that you can access, but these are typically called Guides or Masters.

To summon a Watcher, first make a connection. If you have a favorite spirit or familiar, summon them (only one that you trust. I have a good spirit friend named Shox that always helps me - I think he's a personal Watcher of mine but just won't admit it; board Watchers trump personal Watchers in this communication method). Ask to summon the Watcher of the Board (or speak with them, however you want to word it/whatever feels right). Sometimes the Watcher will not respond until you ask a question, some will identify themselves upon summoning. Depends. If nothing happens at this point, ask if the Watcher of this board is present.

Once you have confirmation of the Watcher, test them. This is the hard part because it's hard to learn about these entities except from people like me, so you can look into it yourself and find out more about spirits and metaphysical energy systems. It takes validation on your part, and intent for it to be true (in other words, if you're anxious/afraid it won't work, you have a higher chance of muddying the connection and having a stronger low spirit intercepting and feeding). Ask the Watcher to change the element of the board to Light.

contd

>>10020044
Only from this point should you ever trust asking questions except from a familiar. You are now free to ask the Watcher any questions; however, many times they cannot answer things that you do not already know (subconscious or consciously). This isn't always bad as it leaves room to ask questions and then learn realizations for yourself and then cross reference with common conceptions and have more validation when your own realizations match up with a vast number of other's.

I would recommend trying to summon any family members or passed friends until this procedure is done. And the only way you can do it for sure without doubt from my words or your own mind, is to tinker with the board and have your own validations that prove the worth of the board. Only then can you perform this ritual, and only after can you contact your loved ones without fear that you're being lied to.

>>10019960
Most of my knowledge is from tinkering myself. Learning the spirits, their characteristics. Learning how to communicate. The Watcher and the board elements I found out from an advanced practicing friend. I used the techniques on my own and validated the experience in my own ways enough to want to share the information for peoples interested. Anyone can learn how to do this, all it takes is a clear mind, intent, and will power.

>>10020062
So you are the guy from the other day
Id like to use one but iv had ... Dark spirits around me before so I dont know if its completely safe
Should I make one of my own?

>mfw however, many times they cannot answer things that you do not already know

>>10020095
I would start off with a premade board because making your own requires a lot of confidence that what you're doing is legitimate. You'd also have to perform a ritual to summon a Watcher to the board, and good mats. I premade board circumvents all that and allows you to experience the communication faster which facilitates the validation, which leads to increased willpower and intent.

I would suggest finding a board at a Pagan/Wiccan store. Many of those people respect and listen to positive spirits, so you'll have a greater chance of making headway instead of spending two hours dealing with negative spirits sewing intricate lies.

>>10020119
Nay, it is how information is transmitted. Something that you know yourself, as I said, can be subconscious or conscious. Subconsciousness is akin to your Higher Self. Once the information is transferred or "realized" in the subconscious mind, the information trickles into the conscious mind and there's your answer.

Metaphysically this occurs from some form of entanglement, but that's another explanation for another thread.

>>10020139
You seem pretty knowledgeable about this stuff. Can you turn me into a frog if I piss you off?

>>10020136

they tell me crazy things, and then there's usually a poltergeist style haunting for a few days. they use words i've never heard before, and we have to look them up or ask people

i still think there's no actual spirits tho

>>10020152
I've got some you may have never heard: science, reason, logic, etc.

>>10020151
Not at all. You are a human, so to be not human is not within my power. That's not how the consciousness and inherent observation over reality works.

>>10020178
Granted, I'm a jerk because I've never had anything remotely paranormal happen to me so I feel left out.

What practical benefits has communicating with those spirits given you? Legit question.

Do u know if I should cleans my house first

>>10020205
Increased awareness resulting in an overall more stabilized and perceptive mindset which has allowed me to not only personally progress farther but also communicate and facilitate growth in others are advanced paces.

I don't mess with spirit boards much anymore, being that I have the power to channel, and often do. I talk often to my deity Shamash.

>>10020286
Seems like something attainable through simple meditation.

So you're telling me I can't tell a spirit to tell me my neighbors credit card number? Again, examples may sound silly, but I wish to know the extent of their influence/perception of our world.

Would you mind if I contacted you directly? It's hard to find reasonable people that know about this stuff.

>>10020314
Through a spirit board - no. A lower level spirit wouldn't be able to communicate this information. But YOU could learn how to go astral and intercept the information. However, once you've reached the ability to do something like that, chances are you won't be interested in monetary wealth. You've validated that 1) you're an immortal energetic being, 2) there is existence after this mortal life, 3) that you can communicate, almost at will, with any conscious entity ever, anywhere.

Sure, my email is [email protected]

I spoke with a demon.


My girlfriends sister had been followed by some dark thing (which they had all referred to as a demon). Whenever she came home, strange things would happen, doors open, doors slam, and the occasional sight of a tall dark man walking just out of sight. Very strange. Up to this point I had never seen anything regarding this dark entity. We were all at a party playing with a Ouija board (yes they were playing with it and not using it as it should be used). I saw the chance to find my long sought proof of something paranormal. My friend and I left the room and made a promise that when we got to use it, neither would move it so we could both see what happens.

I asked if there was anything following my girlfriends sister (she was in the room, and put in headphones because she was terrified of it). It moved to yes.

After a series of questions, we decided to go to her old house (which no longer had furniture because they had just moved). We went in and set up at a kitchen island counter. She went into the kitchen walk-in pantry and turned on the lights (Every time she left the room or went to far, the thing following her would immediately go to goodbye and leave)


(1/2)

After a few series of questions, I asked it if it could move anything. It said no. I asked if I was the only one in the room, would it move something. No again. I asked if She was the only one, if it would move something. Yes.

and then I whispered if it would turn off the pantry light. Everyone was silent. There was a horrendously loud banging noise in the pantry and the lights went out. Everyone in the pantry ran out screaming. Apparently, something flew off the top pantry shelf and then the lights went off.

I proceeded with two others to go into the room where She used to sleep. It was the worst feeling I have ever experienced. Horrible. It felt like the air was twice as heavy. I felt dread. no fear, just dread. We set up and started asking questions. We finally got to a question I had been meaning to ask.


What is your name.


G.O.D.

Goodbye.


We left the house and I haven't touched a Ouija board since.

By the way, the other two people in that room ended up throwing up, I could barely stomach my nausea.

btw, I don't call it a demon because of that experience, but rather because of the various other experiences she has had, including it locking her door, blowing up her lightbulb and throwing her matress

>>10020359
Sounds like to higher level negative spirit that manifested and has stuck around the girl, constantly causing negativity. It's like a life-long feast for them. Only one way to get around it, and that's to accept it and learn to love it. Learn to offer up POSITIVE energy, which will repel its force.

>>10020373
Call your yeti and tell it to beat the bad guy up.

On a more serious note... why do people never ever get to record their experiences with Ouija?

>>10020394
Non-local observes affect the entanglement of the communication.

In other words, people surrounding but having no part can act as interference. Cameras a similar observation power to a person watching something.

>>10019932
>>10020044
>>10020062
>>10020139
>>10020327
Ouija board self-insert fanfic...it does exist.

>>10020398
What would you expect to happen if a person afflicted by one such negative spirit comitted suicide to rid themselves of it? Would the spirit become supower-powerful or something? Would the haunted one be tormented in their after life too?

>>10020398
Iv seen acouple goodvideos but nothing too intese

>>10020415
It's highly dependent on the spirit and it's place in the hierarchy. Some would imprison you, dooming you to a Hell-like existence until you were completely consumed or you figured a way to remove yourself from the situation. Some would leave you alone, leaving one's shattered ego to become a new lower level negative spirit seeking freedom from pressures, but constantly causing them on themselves. Important to remember that egos or personalities are only perspectives of a higher level being, aka your Higher Self.

>>10020378
unfortunately she is THE most negative person I have ever met, which is probably how it found her in the first place. Also I guess the worst part about it is the dreams she gets every night (paired with waking up with a tall dark man in her room). I don't know any of her dreams, but I will ask my gf when she gets out of the shower

>>10020435
She should try using basic lucid dreaming techniques to master her dream state, and once stabilized she could rid herself of the demon through psychic combat. It'd take a very long time to reach this point, especially if the spirit was trying to stop her. Possible, though, if her will power and intent is strong enough.

>>10020436
that sounds like it could be extremely helpful, I'll see if I can bring it up next time I see her.

>>10020436
Burning incents would help too, no?

bump

>>10020443
It's very simple to do, just hard to maintain.

Start with visualizing basic colored shapes. Evolve this into colors and shapes that are symbolic of intent. Practice visualization skills. The key is to try to keep the mind awake and active as the body falls asleep.

Can also try the WBTB method. Sleep for two sleep cycles, wake for 30-60mins, go back to bed. The efforts for LD will be increased because the mind won't be so fatigued but the body will still have active sleep hormones to facilitate an easier transition. Might not work too well though if she's constantly disturbed through the night. So perhaps some basic ritual magick could help? Seeking a coven of Wiccans or an experienced mystic to help.

>>10020447
Depends on the person. Incense works because it is used as a sigil form. Scent is a powerful sense. You associate said incense with said activity/reaction/etc. It would take some basic ritual work, but that might be too much for someone that needs more dramatic and instant help.

Check your tweetmail bro

I guess her dreams are really really horrible, but at the request of my gf I'm not going to repeat them. I'll definitely tell her though

>>10020485
Horrible can only be so horrible bro.

Massive mutilation? Killing babbies? Death to Christ? Raping wormholes? I mean you can only conceive of so much. It's the mind that makes these dreams into shit they're not. It's all about fear. It's only as horrible as you make it.

To everyone that's emailed me - I've either responded or am in the process of acquiring an instant messenger. My name will be Kroovistos, probably on AIM

>>10020485
Well I guess every night, the entity makes her decide which family member to kill. Sometimes makes her decide, always makes her watch, tells her to do it, makes her do it. And yes, it absolutely is about fear. The thing is terrifying. It was very polite though when we were using the Ouija board

>>10020485
Do they include valleys of dead bodys with a throne made of boned at the end of the dirt road,
With a redfog in the distance and blood raining from the sky
And tge smell and taste of death every which way?

>>10020500
Yea that's small potatoes, she still has time to turn it around.

TRUE negativity is closer to psychosis. The inability to differentiate reality from manifestation from the negative entity.

Killing family members ain't no thang but a chicken wang, with a big butt layin' on yo lap. GAME RADIO. Sorry GTAIII reference lol. But really, all she has to work on is self-realization and the fact that she's not >actually< doing these things.

Sounds to me like she's a bit addicted to the negativity.

>>10020518
I don't know about addicted but she certainly is reluctant to do anything about it

>>10020500
Not gunna lie, I would enjoy that kind of situation

>>10020521
Addiction doesn't mean want for it, it means unable to be regular without it. People can become addicted to emotions just like any drug (after all, emotions and external drugs only stimulate the same hormones, just in varied levels). After a while of dealing with a constant stimulus, the body starts to be unable to cope without it, compensating by - you guessed it, either continuing the addiction, or negative side effects. Severe depression, paranoia, anxiety, etc. And it only gets worse. A positive reinforcement cycle of negativity, if you will.

>>10020534
well im pretty sure you nailed everything about her without even knowing her name lol

Ouija board, would you work for me? I have got to say hello to an old friend. I have got to get through to a good friend. She has now gone from this unhappy planet, with all the carnivores
and the destructors of it. Ouija board, would you help me? because I still do feel so horribly lonely. Would you, ouija board? Would you help me? Because I just can't find my place in this world.
Oh hear my voice... The table is rumbling... The glass is moving... "No, I was NOT pushing that time." It spells S.T.E.V.E.N.... P.U.S.H.O. double F.

>>10020539
It's not her, it's a process. That's the thing. Some people would like to imagine they're special, different, or going through something totally on their own, when in reality many, many more people have already gone through it, are going through it, or will go through it.

All it takes is meditation. Finding herself. Finding out why she is negative over certain things. Finding out why she has certain feelings. It's only a process she can overcome, and if she's already addicted to negativity then chances are she will either go psychotic one day, or she'll eventually get over herself and move on to be a productive member of society. Either way, the choice lies up to her, and showing her some "infoz" that you learned from a young mystic on 4chan doesn't sound like, to me at least, it'll help at all.

>>10020539
Ya know... Weed can help her

>>10020554
Weed can actually make the problem much worse. Weed makes you think, and if her problem is excessive thinking without purpose, it could greatly exacerbate the issues.

>Makeshift Ouija
>printed image on wooden board, key to point to letters
>The fucking thing works
>take it to friends house which is known to be haunted
>start talking to ghost
>He calls himself Amj, which we think was his initials
>we chat with him for a while, he's a total bro
>Tells us about another entity in the house
>says it's my friends dead lover, probably from a past life or something
>Alldone.jpg
>walk into friend's mother's room
>look into mirror
>figure flashes behind me, looks like it's clutching my face and I'll never forget the things smile
>avoid mirrors for a good 2 years

So. Got parker bro. board. Brother, me and long time friend. We do the hand on the key thing accuse each other of moving it. Talk shit to the board say all the things you should never say. NOTHING happens. I'm about to not give a fuck when my buddy suggest we ask it to move something if it won't or can't talk. We place a cat's eye marble in the middle of the plastic pointer lens area. Wait...WAIT..FUCKIN NOTHING! WE get up I chuck the board in a garbage can near a storage rack. 2 points! So we're in the kitchen the room next to the one in which we evoke magic hats and what not and nothing happens. BANG,SMASH,CRASH! What the fuck? Run in room. Whole room is trashed. Boards sitting in middle of floor pointer over the word yes. Stick board back in box and shove under crawl space. IT stayed there until we sold the house.

>>10020562
NOPE !!

>>10020603
Pretty much.

>>10020485
Nunu I show her how to trap what she dreams about. No more nightmares/night terrors.

>>10020635
I'll definitely tell her about the LDing but I seriously doubt she will do anything with it. The problem isn't with her being able, it's with her will to do anything. Anyway, I'm probably going to get off now and go to bed, it's moving into the wee hours of the morning, thanks for all of your responses and feedback!