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70 KB Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)20:43 No.9749044  
Hi /x/. It's me again. I posted a while back about my experiments with sleep paralysis and lucid dreaming that I called Things I've seen in mirrors during lucid dreams.

Anyway, it's been a while since I've updated basically because, although I still lucid dream, I'm not as into it as I used to be.

In case any of you are interested in having a read of some of my latest experiences and the conclusions I've drawn from them, I'm providing a link here:

http://fmanuscripts.wordpress.com/

Bumping with passages and unsettling/creepy/dark images until I get the impression no one is interested, or until I run out of information to share.

Thanks.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)20:44 No.9749057
"There have been a few strange occurrences during my lucid dreams that I thought worth mentioning. All of these observations are regarding the characters in my dreams, some of them familiar and some not. It is also perhaps worth noting that I am not as confident in my abilities as I once was; when I do become lucid I tend to have less control over my surroundings and the events of my dreams than I used to. I feel this is my subconscious’ doing. Hopefully you’ll see what I mean"
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)20:46 No.9749066
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1) I have noticed an increase in characters who seem to be trying to confuse me, and who sometimes trick me into losing my lucidity.

For example I have a dream jotted down dated from December last year. A phone rang and a man at the front desk of a hotel told me it was for me. Considering myself in control of the dream, I was both intrigued and nervous about this random event manifesting from nowhere. It ended up being an ex-girlfriend and I was so excited to talk to her I was completely pulled from my lucidity back into the narrative of the dream. I never realised until I woke up.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)20:47 No.9749076
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2) Something else I have noticed is that it is possible to make dream characters act very strange by asking them specific questions. I guess you lucid dreamers out there could try it yourselves, ask them about your dream world and lucid dreams. Sometimes they try and trick you out of lucidity. Sometimes they just get confused. Once a woman just stared at me with horrible eyes as though I had done something I wasn’t supposed to, then was always watching from somewhere distant for the rest of the dream. It was very unsettling.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)20:49 No.9749092
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3) Probably the most unsettling repeating event is the sensation that I am being hunted out when I have lucid dreams. Again, I think the best way to explain this is through a few examples:

a) In one instance in February I still remember scribbling down a dream upon awakening in which I was flying, an act that never seems gets old. Below me a group of people were running away and instantly I knew something was up. The atmosphere changed the same way it always does when something is going wrong, so I landed to see what was happening.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)20:52 No.9749103
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One of the people (who I know in the real world but whose identity is not important) approached and told me to run. He looked behind him, eyes widened, shouted, then took off. When I turned around there was a tall figure whose feet and legs were dragging behind it as it approached in a way I find difficult to describe in any more detail. I can’t remember what its face looked like but I remember being rooted to the spot in terror. It asked if I had just been flying. I denied it. Somehow I knew it was looking for lucid dreamers and catching them.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)20:53 No.9749113
I'd tap the one with the tits and vag.>>9749044
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)20:54 No.9749115
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b) There was another dream where I was in a public square resembling castle grounds, bordered by some dark bazaar. There was a raised platform in the centre and gallows towering over us. All around me was a crowd and I remember not being able to move much because we were packed so tight.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)20:55 No.9749130
>>9749044
I'm intrigued. Bumping.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)20:55 No.9749131
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A man slowly climbed onto the raised platform with the gallows and made an announcement that there was a ‘dreamer’ among us. He said that everyone was to look into another’s eyes. I didn’t like the sound of that. It was so quiet. It only took a moment for everyone to be staring at me, all these heads turned to me watching in silence, some of them inches away at most. Then the guy closest to me said ‘I think you better wake up now’ and I did.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)20:57 No.9749138
You know, or you were just dreaming.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)20:57 No.9749139
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c) One of my more recent dreams was a few weeks ago. I was lying on my bed at home and there came a sharp knocking on the door. As I said before, I live alone.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)20:58 No.9749147
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I was frightened. Then came another sharp knocking, this time more urgent. A voice came dark and indescribable like reversed speech. It told me it had caught me trying to lucid dream and that it knew I had been doing it for a while. It said that I was forbidden from coming back and that the next time I done it it would be waiting for me. Then the door flew open and battered against the wall, waking me up with a start.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)20:58 No.9749149
>>9749131
Creepy.

But only a nightmare. The dream world is inside your own head.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)20:59 No.9749156
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Another interesting thing to do to dream characters is tell them that they are dreaming. In my experience it often causes them to react strangely. One woman comes to mind, who responded with a puzzled look and began to act like a glitching machine. Another time I told a man who stared at me in silence for a long time before I noticed his face was gradually warping in a way that can only be described as disturbing.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:00 No.9749162
>>9749139
I'd tap it. Nothin wrong with banging alien chicks.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:01 No.9749166
>>9749131
Should have instantly looked into another's eyes and accused them of being the dreamer just to see what happened.
Anyway these are awesome, please continue.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:01 No.9749171
>>9749156
Yes, it is because it is all in your head. They react the way your subconscious expects them to. If there's no way they can react logically they would cease to function.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:02 No.9749177
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There was also a recurring figure I saw maybe ten times while in sleep paralysis. I always noticed it in my peripheral vision. Whenever I did I felt intense terror. A stab of complete helplessness. More so than with anything else I have dreamt about. I would never be able to turn to it since I was paralysed, but I always knew it was the same figure. I always felt that if I looked at it I would regret it.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:03 No.9749184
>>9749177
I'm not sure what they are either. I think they might feed off of nightmares.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:04 No.9749185
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>>9749177

Occasionally I see it in my normal dreams and my lucid dreams. It is never a pleasant experience. I usually wake myself when I detect it. Dreams never go well when it turns up.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:05 No.9749197
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A vivid sleep paralysis experience from half a year ago: I had just slipped into sleep paralysis and was lying there paralysed. I knew something was wrong right away. There was a dull throb resonating in the distance. Like a huge underwater machine or something. I could only watch as my bedroom door slowly began to open. I live alone.

When the door in my bedroom is fully ajar I still can’t see the doorway because of where my bed is positioned. So in the dream I just stared at the edge of it in sheer horror waiting for whatever it was to enter. The next thing I knew I was watching its horrible face rise slowly over the side of my bed, half a meter away from me. Never forgot that one.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:06 No.9749200
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Sleep paralysis becomes more manageable with experience. There are ways out if you cannot handle a particularly unpleasant episode of it. Either move a single finger, a single toe, or hold your breath. This should be enough to wake you up.

I believe some people confuse supernatural and extraterrestrial experiences with sleep paralysis. The first time I woke from it I was certainly convinced something otherworldly had happened. It took me a while to calm myself down enough to think rationally again. This was well before I knew what hypnagogia was.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:06 No.9749201
>>9749185
I once dreamed I was fighting one. Using my will against it. I got it to leave my dream, which also caused me to wake up. I saw it fleeing my room briefly.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:07 No.9749209
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I remember my very first proper lucid dream. I was in a car with my family on a journey I do not remember starting. We were driving down some impossibly huge bridge that miles away seemed to loop spectacularly. I realised then that such a structure could not possibly exist and it popped into my head that I might be dreaming. I poked my hand and my finger went right through as though it was soft rubber. Then I knew.

As soon as I realised I was dreaming the car stopped and all of my family turned to look at me. Not a word was spoken. I can still remember how disturbing the scene was. Later in the dream I forgot about the lucidity and again became lost in my subconscious. Lucidity needs to be held down. This again comes through experience.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:08 No.9749214
>>9749200
You have to FORCE yourslef to wake up fully. It kinda hurts. But it eventually works.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:09 No.9749223
>>9749209
Your dream knows when you are lucid and dissaproves?

The idea of this is kind of creepy.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:10 No.9749231
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>>9749201
Interesting. Have you had any other notable experiences?
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:10 No.9749241
>>9749177

God fucking damn it. Why does every one have to freak out when this shit happens. I woke up nineteen times last night with nightmares, and I don't make an existential issue about it. If you're frightened, talk to someone. It isn't a big deal that you saw this thing.

I wake up and see this shit too, accept that it's the end and move on with it. At least if it's not, you can be pleasantly surprised that you still have some time left. This shit happens, it really isn't a big deal.

P.S. Nothing happens if you look at them, they just stand there, or do other shit.

Fuck I hate /x/.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:12 No.9749249
>>9749241
You didn't wake up 19 times last night, I can tell you that right now.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:12 No.9749250
>>9749231
Occasioanlly I encounter strange beings in dreams, this causes me to become lucid.

One time I got drunk and was praying to demons for fun or something, had a weird dream after that. Something took a couple of red stars out of my body.

Like some sort of vampire maybe? I don't know. It was probably just me dreaming.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:12 No.9749253
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In my strange way I am completely fascinated by the disturbing things I see in reflections. It’s a weird obsession of mine. Sometimes when I dream I will count my fingers, as a result become lucid, then go off searching for a mirror. I have a great list of things I have seen behind the looking glass.

There are warnings on the internet, that what you might see in the mirror can be so fucking horrible it can frighten you into a nightmare, or even wake you up with a start. I am very familiar with both these outcomes.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:14 No.9749263
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Sometimes when I peer at my reflection nothing really interesting happens. I might have different hair or be wearing strange clothes. One time I was naked – talk about a cliché. Another time I saw a girl and was convinced it was exactly how I would have looked had I been born female.

However there have been far darker images waiting for me. These are the ones I write down. The ones that I preserve.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:14 No.9749265
>>9749253
There's nothing special about mirrors. It's the same thing about the urban legend that you aren't supposed to look at a mirror when you're tripping on acid or shrooms.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:15 No.9749269
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I have seen my body disfigured in a hundred ways. I have been contorted, elongated, twisted and swollen. I have had six arms like some kind of Indian God. My body has been withered like a victim of the holocaust. My head has been stretched like a fleshy pipe. My teeth have been long and frightening. I have even not been there at all.

I have even seen the figure from my days of sleep paralysis in the reflection, standing just out of focus behind me. I can almost feel the same sensation of dread again just thinking about it. I didn’t have the nerve to look at him. Again I felt something terrible would happen if I did. I don’t think I ever will.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:16 No.9749273
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I have faced a blurred, shadowed version of myself. This one is a little difficult to explain. It was though the mirror was steamed up, except only around my dim reflection. Always out of focus, the impossibly-still shadow watched me from a darker version of the bathroom I stood in. I remember the fear, and the hostility. When I awoke I was certain he was behind me. Took me a good hour before I dared to close my eyes again.

A few years ago I had a dream where I saw myself, except I was five again. The younger me was looking at me with deeply sad eyes, and I just knew he was upset and ashamed of what I’d become. I woke up with wet eyes that morning and didn’t feel right until the next day.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:16 No.9749275
>>9749171

That's what they say isn't it? That's what they all say, "its all in your head", "the monsters in there can't hurt you", "it's only a dream". They are lying.

Have you heard of communal dreaming? Its where two people go lucid and try to meet in a single dream; it never works fluently, but many times they will see and speak with each other, but the stress of the connection either forces them out of lucidity, or forces them to wake. There are mechanisms in place to keep us from controlling our dream worlds completely, because the dream world is not only our own, they are shared, more like a bag of marbles, where each marble is a different person's dream world. There are thoughtforms in there as well, they are the "nightmares" the creatures that feed off of fear and make you wake dripping with sweat and breathing rapidly. Here's their catch though, they can only feed and control you if you are dreaming without control, if you are lucid, they will try to force you out of it by any means necessary.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:17 No.9749282
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>>9749273
That is one of the most powerful dreams I have ever had. I still remember it vividly. Remember tiny details like there being four toothbrushes in the holder, as there had been when I lived with my family. Remember there being a sticker of the genie from Aladdin in the bottom left corner, which I stuck there when the film came out (I would have been 5 or 6 at that time). In my youth it had stayed there for ages, getting more and more worn from the condensation before someone eventually scraped it off.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:17 No.9749286
When I have nightmares, I don't really get that afraid anymore. I dream of so many horrible things. But in the dream I only battle them instead of waking up scared. I usually just shoot things that scare me in my dreams.

Although a lot of the time in my dream I am physically unable to pull the trigger, and that does scare me a bit.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:18 No.9749293
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In a more recent dream I looked in the mirror and appeared perfectly normal. I remember for a moment thinking Hm, this doesn’t happen often. A horrible sensation of dread suddenly came, chilling me to the bone. There was a deafening ungodly scream and my jaw snapped open with a sudden, single jerk – stretching impossibly far from the rest of my face. The room became dim too.

I remember panicking and struggling to wake myself up. I’m usually good at this. I can usually wake up in seconds. On this occasion however it took a good minute or two. I remember straining desperately to get my lids open, quickly checking the mirror again, and seeing the deranged me reaching out from the glass still wide-mouthed and shrieking. I joined in the screaming as it bared down on me, waking up just in time.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:19 No.9749295
>>9749265

I was told that the first night I did shrooms. Everyone said "whatever you do man, don't look in a mirror!"

First thing I did when I was damn sure they'd kicked in was look for a mirror. It was leaned up against a wall, so it almost made a half-assed vertigo kick in, but that was about it.

I left the house we were in and found a tire swing, and proceeded to hang out on that for the remainder of the night.

captcha: head trorce

Newheads can't trorce...
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:22 No.9749310
That's all I'll paste for now. If there are any questions feel free to shoot before I go to bed.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:25 No.9749323
>>9749310
Have you ever encountered the invisible race? The people who have no form. The shadows. They seem to really like people who are sleeping and hang around them and sometimes they enter the draem and you might notice them.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:27 No.9749339
>>9749249

Sorry, didn't see a reply here for a while. Looking at pictures.

Fuck you, I hope you have more than ten nightmares a night, and can't stay asleep longer than a half hour. This shit is why I hate /x/.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:29 No.9749356
>>9749339
No, that's why you hate me and my comments, not why you hate /x/. Don't condemn a group based on the actions of a single member.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:30 No.9749361
>>9749323
Sounds like the shadowed figures I described earlier. Interesting name for them. I've read they're pretty common in sleep paralysis. Basic humanoid shapes with no detail. Makes sense that they would be imagined most of the time.

They used to frighten me. Most of the things I seen during sleep paralysis did. I think I got used to them after forcing it so much. I don't tend to get it as much these days since I no longer force it. Only on the odd day when it comes naturally.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:38 No.9749404
>>9749356

I condemn your group because of the following reasons:

A): I hate everything, other people especially.

B): You people assume you know everything, which is exactly why none of you get the answers you want.

C): You're prepared to cast indefinite judgement based on first-impression and gut-feeling.

D): Everything has to be interesting to you all. Answers you want must be endlessly intriguing to you, you never gave a damn about the truth, it was just vaguely interesting to try to find it. The moment it's a boring thing, you cast that aside too.

E): No one on /x/ has seen or done anything they've claimed to in their lives. Once they get the opportunity, it terrifies them into a cheap complacence with what they already understand. Nobody ever tries to learn more.

F): It's always "Faggot" this, and "Faggot" that. Yes, it was funny. It's funny right up to the point where you see these same cheap fucking memes our parents thought were funny when they were children. It gets old.

G): Everyone wants to be the main fucking character, try being a secondary, or a supportive role if you're interested in drama. This is a boring goddamn world where everyone has to be a unique and perfect soul. We get it, you're a beautiful mind, go try to contribute something for the next generation.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:41 No.9749419
>>9749404

And an addendum:

H): There was no inherent hostility or spite in your last post. Be more hostile.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:42 No.9749422
Quick question about sleep paralysis.
Have these shadow people ever actually been able to touch you? Though I've only had one experience, these things were obsessed with killing me. They became bears, lions, anything they could to kill me, but they would dissolve an instant before they touched me
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:42 No.9749426
>>9749404
I am aware that all of my experiences I've described are just dreams and nightmares and have explanations. I published them for observational and curious reasons and have offered theories and explanations besides some of the imagery if you look on the site. I have made no claims that any of this is paranormal, just described my experiences and thoughts on them.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:47 No.9749452
>>9749422
I have never come to any physical harm in my two-odd years of sleep paralysis and lucid dreaming. Often I might wake up frightened or upset for a short period after dreaming. A lot of the time I feel drained and tired from interrupted sleep. Occasionally I feel unsettled throughout the duration of the day, but I'm usually fine afterwards.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:48 No.9749461
>>9749426

What the hell changed? You were angry enough with me before. Why would you stop now? I just insulted you eight times, and once indifferently on your worth.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:53 No.9749486
This isn't really that related. But, isn't it weird that we exist at all? I kind of wonder if this was all a big accident and life was never meant to exist in the first place.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:54 No.9749494
>>9749461
That was me, the OP. You were arguing with someone else. I chose to address you because I thought you were addressing the thread as a whole with your list. I agree with a few of them. The dreams I have posted are just dreams. I have drawn up comparisons and similarities between some of them. What the reader makes of these is up to them.

To clarify:
>>9749404
>>9749356
>>9749339
>>9749275
>>9749171
Are not me.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)21:56 No.9749508
>>9749494

Damn it. He's gone then.
>> Anonymous 03/20/12(Tue)23:11 No.9749909
Creepy stuff!
>> Anonymous 03/21/12(Wed)00:32 No.9750314
Moved my site around a bit. If anyone's still looking you can find the correct piece here: http://fmanuscripts.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/notable-experiences-with-characters-from-lucid-dreams/
>> Anonymous 03/21/12(Wed)01:00 No.9750429
>>9749177

Reading other people describing exactly what I saw and felt when I had my sleep paralysis, blows my mind. Yes, it probably is just some perfectly natural phenomenon, but something in might gut tells me it isnt.

Ive only had it happen 3 times. First I dreamt I was walking along a street close to my home at night, and I saw a figure trough my peripheal vision between shadows. Fuck, was that a mistake. "It" got very angry that I saw it, and I felt its head at my side, staring me with hate filled eyes. I tried to scream, but the fear and dread wouldnt let me, but I woke up anyway.
The second time, 3 "shadows" came to me in a random dream I was having, but they werent scary. They felt old, ancient even ( in my dream I saw them as wise old men ), and tried to offer me power and knowledge in exchange for something. What, I dont know, but I declined straight away. I never dreamt about them again.
The third time, I was in between consciousness and sleep, and I felt a heavy dreaded presence float above. It was as if it was looking for something.

Weird shit, scary when it happen. Kinda wish it happened again, but I know better then to meddle with those fuckers.
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perenermel

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by anonymous | 2012-04-11 05:13:43 UTC

I've had sleep paralysis since I was around 5 years old. It comes and goes. I dont think I had a single case throughout my high school years, however since I've started college it's been happening quite frequently. Just last week I had a friend of mine over and being the generous host that I am, let him use my bed to sleep and I took the ground. So I opened my window and put the fan on the window sill to blow the nice cool night wind in my room and I quickly fell asleep. It was around 4:30ish I believe and I remember just the end of the dream. I was in a bedroom that felt very familiar to me. I think it might have been my grandparents bedroom only the layout was a bit off. It was night in my dream and the window was open. I walked over to the window and looked out and saw a eerie girl (looked to be a preteen maybe?)standing behind the fence. She had a white dress on (cliche I know but hey it's what I saw :P) and her eyes where just a dull white with no iris, they seemed to almost be glowing slightly. For whatever reason I gave her the finger. Immediately I was shot out of my dream and I was awake. I couldn't move and there was an incredible feeling of dread around me. I could hear the fan clearly and then it stopped, turned back on, stopped, turned on yet again, and then finally it sounded like the power went out and the fan shut off. After that there was what appeared to be a black twig figure kneeling beside my face and it was twitching alot and it didnt appear to have arms. Suddenly I felt some other force lean by my ear and say "Heyyyyy." About 10 seconds later I finally freed myself of the paralysis and layed there for a minute before telling myself it was just sleep paralysis and going back to bed. Sorry for the long post I just had to get it off my chest


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