ads

But surely not for good. You can exchange the batteries right?

...right?

I went to turn on Silver.
It won't even save anymore.

Farewell... old friends.

>R/B/Y
no really? you're not serious right? i mean, there was no clock there...what could possibly die?

Red still works. Fuck yeah.

NO MY FRIENDS WILL BE ALIVE FOREVER SHUT UP

Silver works perfectly fine. Enjoy your busted games, losers!

>Dat feel when you remember reading about that as a child right after purchasing Silver
>dat feel when you knew it would matter, even if 12 years away

God fucking damn it. The oldest main games will now all belong to the Advance Generation.

>What 12 years yeah whatever that forever away!
>It's now 2012.
>mfw

G/S hasn't worked in years.

Blue still going strong.

>Try Blue
>Gone
>Try Red
>Gone
>Try Gold
>Gone

>12 years?
>pff we'll just trade them to the next game before that

Dont worry guys! I have came up with a solution, but we may have to use
MATH!

Use these steps!
>You look at the stats of your bro
>Write that shit down
>look at special
>Add Special + Attack
>Devide by 2
>Add Special + Defense
>Devide by 2
>you now have Special attack and Special defense
>add your maths to some sort of pokemon generator
>GTS those guys
>????????
>Welcome, to the future!

There now you can somewhat make it work
well, you can edit the numbers to work more for the pokemon.

So it's actually true.

I-...

>loaded up Silver, dead

>loaded up Gold, dead

>mfw

My Red Blue and Crystal are all still fine.
My Gold and Silver died years ago though.

http://www.youtube(dot)com/watch?v=pc91YLzX5s4

So does this work or not?

i have 2 copies of silver and 1 of gold which dont save

shit sucks

>That feel when my beloved bros will live forever on Pokemon Stadium

"The internal battery has run dry, clock based events wont be available" FUCK YES I CAN STILL SAVE MY GAME.
This was ruby btw.

>>8746985
Off topic here, but why the hell don't you just post the link normally?
You can post links to youtube here, you won't be banned...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc91YLzX5s4

What kind of batteries do they require?

>>8746996
R/S/E lost there ability to keep clock events long ago. They avoided having the same problem as G/S/C by having two different batteries, one for save data and one for time.

>>8747002 Im so fucking happy right now

>>8747000
It's just a regular watch battery. It's really pretty easy to do, I've replaced my Blue, Silver and Crystal. Replacing the battery deletes your save though :(.

Hello everyone, here's an idea, just buy something to back up your saves, then replace the watch battery.

Something like this http://www.amazon.com/MEGA-MEMORY-CARD-Game-Boy-Color/dp/B00002R108/ref=pd_sim_vg_1

I have a monster brain, it worked great for backing up my saves.

you can replace the battery here is a link

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-replace-the-battery-in-a-pokemon-goldsilve/#step1

good as new

This is meaningless to me. Both my Red and Silver copies died like 7 years ago.

>>8746992
...That uses battery-backed memory too.

DS cards don't, however, so anything from Gen IV onward is safe.

>>8747034
You need a soldering iron, though. The contacts are fused to the battery.

>>8747130
Anyone know the expected time for N64 games to start dying out?
I'm concerned for my Banjo Kazooie games...

My Ruby battery bit the dust two years ago. Pretty sure the RBY died long before.

>Implying GB batteries can't last up to 20 years, depending.
>Implying that's not a watch battery that you can't just replace

>>8747130
How do DS cards work, if I may ask?

>>8747174
Flash memory.

my gold and sapphire died in 2007.. i played em to death :v(

>>8747178
Tell me of this sorcery.

>>8747189
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory

RBY, GSC, and RSE are flash too.

>>8747171
People are whining because while the battery is replaceable, once it's replaced their saves will be lost.

I guess there are a lot of people who have that one, single save that's been untouched for nearly 14 years, but I don't fall into that category. For the most part, with each Generation I moved on, in part because I knew it was using battery-backed memory. It wasn't until Gen IV that I settled down and made a point to got insane with getting every possible Pokemon then leaving the game largely untouched.

>>8747192
>RBY, GSC, and RSE are flash too.
Then why are their batteries dying erasing the saves?

>>8747192
What is the lifespan of it?

>>8747193
>get all 151 pokemon
>let niece play
>she erases it

God damn it.

>>8747204
Of what?

>>8747196
Probably because the memory that stores save data needs the power from the battery since it uses RAM instead of ROM for some reason. They got around it later since storage became much cheaper.

How long until all our Gen IV and Gen V cards go boom?

My Ruby died last fall... I haven't checked my Emerald
because I used to play it so often...

>>8747206
Random, somewhat unrelated story, but my brother had a knack for accidentally erasing my Sonic Adventure 2 Battle save. In case you don't know/remember, on the file screen it always gave you a yes/no confirmation, even if you were just loading the file, and of course it did the same thing if you were erasing it. So all it took was my brother accidentally pressing the joystick in the wrong direction to select "erase" rather than "select" and he ended up erasing it.

...THREE TIMES. I had to fight that goddamn giant lizard three motherfucking times. Oh sure, I had to beat the rest of the game too, but that fucking giant lizard with the bubbles. Fuck. After a while I just said fuck it and stopped trying. Thank god Chao saves were a different file.

>>8747210
Data does not have an unlimited lifespan. It's not magic.

It might take a hundred or two hundred years but that shit will end up just like your RBY carts. I was asking how long the lifespan of flash data is.

>>8747218
And I mean my clock... saves still work for now. Blue still works... it got deleted once but it saves again for some reason.

>>8747210
So, despite all Pokemon games using flash memory, the previous assertion that only games pre-Gen IV need to worry about dead batteries is true? Just making sure.

>>8747221
My niece has erased the following games of mine.

Pokemon Red: 151 pokemon save
Super Mario World 200% complete save (TWICE.)
She lost my 100% complete New Super Mario Bros cart
She lost my Mario Kart DS cart

>>8747222
No one is expecting these things to last forever. Hell, eventually the plastic will deteriorate if we really want to go that far.

In a perfect world, all saves would last until we died. So 100 years just to be safe. Not that we'll all be playing Pokemon in nursing homes, but... wait, we'll probably totally be playing Pokemon in nursing homes, never mind.

>>8747236
>Super Mario World 200% complete save (TWICE.)
My god... I feel for you man. Brofist.

>>8747222
Of course it doesn't. But at the rate of data transfer for the pokemon games which is practically negligible it's probably close to the maximum limit. I don't know how long the data will last, but it will probably still work in your lifetime.

>>8747227
RSE is safe anyways, the only thing affected is clock events.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QOoH-Okd0U
For all the lost bros, friends, allies, slaves, and pets.
You'll be missed, friends.

>>8747215
Flash memory is more likely to die from writes than over time. I believe the flash memory type used in the GBA games has ~1000 full writes or so while the memory used in DS games has ~5000 before it fails.

Both the GBA & DS games keep 2 copies of your save and switch between the two so you can effectively double the count. 2000 writes still isn't that much, though. That's 3 years of playing daily if you save twice a day.

>>8747296
The good part is, it only affects writes, so you can copy it if you happen to have one of those card readers for the DS carts then you can copy it at least.

>>8747296
...I am now deeply regretting the fact that I save like an OCD sufferer washes his hands.
>>8747301
Only if you're keeping track of how many saves you've made and can rescue your save before it hits its limit.

>>8746933
>>8746945
What are you talking about? I don't remember a 12 year disclaimer.

>>8747324
That's not something Nintendo wants to advertise, but the batteries they used only have a life of about 12 or so years, and the fact that the time is up on the classic Pokemon games has been making its rounds online.

>>8747324
NES games started failing around the time G/S came out, this brought some people to investigate in advance. There were a couple of forum posts and stuff.

>>8746918
Yes.

Trade all your bros to GSC from RBY, swap battery in RBY, trade bros back. Do the same in reverse for GSC. Sadly, it wont work with Gen 2 pokemon

>>8747490
>Sadly, it wont work with Gen 2 pokemon
Nor will it work with any Gen I Pokemon with a move set that isn't available in Gen I. Have you ever actually looked into what that includes? It's pretty limiting if I recall correctly.

I should be sad, but... I'm not. Battery from my Red died during the time it was lost for years in cold outer garage, I am in Cerulean in Blue (Hell, I had played through the game once, my starter was long lost because of dumb friend, and I wanted to experience the story again), and I haven't owned Crystal for multiple years. Sold it to friend (Same friend that made me lost my original Charizard. Dumbass. Actually, it was his dumbass sister who did it. Shouldn't have borrowed Crystal ever.). And if I ever want to replay any of them in my trusty motherfucker (Pic VERY related), I can just swap the battery and feel nothing.


I am horrible person, I know, but I have no nostalgic connections to my games currently.

>>8747499
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Move_deleter


Hell, just go to Blackthorn

>>8747490
I guess his point was that you can save at least Gen 1 bros.

>>8747058

I bought something like this back when G/S came out because it said it would allow me to edit anything in those games which it did, after looking for my older games this past week found out my silver version is dead and the battery died in sapphire. Blue is still going strong also turns out that thing can back up saves so I guess its time to do that.

just tried my R/B/Y and Crystal and they all working. But I know...it won't last long...

Has Anyone EVER been Able to upgrade the Game? you know take a Game Boy Game and copy the Pokemon to somewhere and get them on a DS Version of the Game? If Not We Need to Start Working on this Shit! WHO IS WITH ME!

>>8747593
it's not possible.

my gold version died about 6 years ago, and crystal lasted a few more years after that
rby still work though
i have a few gsc pokemon i saved on my pokemon stadium 2 cart (and a bunch of gen 1 pokemon from old saves) but that's going to die eventually too
feels very bad man

>Pokemon Red, Silver, Crystal, copies of these are in my house somewhere

>No longer own my original Silver because it was lost on a bus somewhere going to work once.
>No longer own a Gameboy Pocket
>No longer own a working N64 or Transfer packs.
>No longer own a Gameboy Advance
>Gamecube with Gameboy Player is tucked away in a closet until I can set my room up better.

And not a fuck was given. I've moved on. Always have, always will.

Only Gold and Silver. Red, Blue and Yellow don't have clocks and they fixed the problem in Crystal.
But still, Silver was my first game. Stopped working last week.
>mfw

It's okay, traded my friends to Gold version and replaced Silver Version's battery last year, and vice versa. I came prepared, and now we get to take another trip around Johto and Kanto. Too bad they won't fucking listen to me for a third of the game :|

>>8747130
>>8747130
>>8747130
>anything from Gen IV onward is safe.
That's what you say NOW, just wait another 20 years damnit!

>mfw with the remakes now out I never have to play those old pieces of shit again

Fuck your shitty "bros" from when you were in elementary, you autistic fucks.

>Load up Yellow
>Still there
>Load up Blue
>Still there
>Can't find Red
>Assume still there

...first casualty, Crystal...

It's just a matter of time..

>that feel when I can safely store my bros in Pokemon Stadium then replace the batteries and send them right back

>>8748249
Don't you need 100 Pokémon for G/S/C ?

>Tfw you always reset your games to start new adventures
>Tfw you haven't seen your original bros for over a decade

>>8748249
It may have been an expensive game
But it was worth it
Especially playing at Dodrio speed

You do know you can easily replace the battery yourself right?

>>8748255
Not sure, but I'd have Pokemon Stadium 2 to deal with those versions if I knew where my silver and crystal cartridges were...

>>8748268
I remember trying to play Pokémon Crystal on Pokémon Stadium 2. Shit crashed and I lost the data of both games. Never again, never again.

>mfw I have no way of testing since I traded my SP 2 years ago

I know one of my Crystal carts doesn't pass time while not on and I know my Gold cart won't save. The rest (Another Crystal, Red, Yellow) I assume will be dead too. This thread makes me incredibly sad.

>>8747002
Quite, but not really. R/S and all Pokémon games since then use flash-type saves. The battery is only for the clock (in GBA games, for the DS games, it uses the clock from the console), that's why FR/LG don't have any battery in it.

>RBY carts are okay
>GS carts died a long time ago
>Crystal only keeps time while turned on, keeps save for only 30 seconds if shut off
>RSE fine thanks to trading with FRLG
>Japanese Blue cart is dead

I dont wanna lose 'em...

>>8748296
my leaf green says to replace backup memory and it won't let me save so i assume it too needs a battery replaced

>>8748352
No, you just bought an already fucked up version. If this is an official game, it's Nintendo's fault, if it's a bootleg, it's your fault for buying shitty copies.

>>8748362
yeah pretty sure it was fine when i played it years ago

turned it on today and saw my lvl 100 venasaur + box full of bred bulbasaur and tyrogues...

tried to save it before agatha and game froze, let it sit there for an hour, turned off the power, turned back on and forced me to start a new game and now won't even save

>>8748404
What I said, you bought a fucked up game, it just took it some time.

My Red, Blue, Yellow, Silver, and Crystal are all fine. Sapphire died a few years ago. Anyway to transfer that era of games up to today? Can you link cable to GBA gen games?

>>8748471
Nope, can't be done

My remaining Pokemon Silver, Crystal, Red and Yellow died in 2010. First to go was Silver, my favorite.

>>8747130
just opened up Stadium 2, no battery in sight

>live to fight another day

Joke's on you, my gold version's batteries died 6 years ago!

;_;

Just replaced my 2 copies of Silver today. What kind of battery does Ruby use? I'm fixing a friends copy.

>>8748560
Exactly the same as the old games.

>>8748567
Doesn't look it. Will the CR2032 work in Ruby?

>>8748593
Weird, a friend of mine used the battery of a Red version he didn't use, and it worked... The batteries used for the GBA games are CR1616.

Guys, i have an idea. It'll take a fuckton of programming skill, but I don't see a flaw:

What if someone made a program that basically looks at the data of the pokemon from gen 2 and puts it on gen 3 with the same OT, ID, level, IVs, EVs, and moveset? The experience would be different, but if it just starts it at the level rather than how much total experience, it seems negligible. Since the secret ID doesn't exist in gens 1 and 2, one could be generated that makes it shiny by looking at the IVs

Thoughts?

>Try to load Crystal (my favorite game, as it was the first where I could be a girl) on Pokemon Stadium as I misplaced my GBC a year ago.
...

Goodbye, old friends. I love you all <3

I'll never forget all the adventures we shared, the battles we won (and lost), and the bond between us.

Typhlosion, you were such a bro.
Umbreon, you were the best first dark type ever.
Ledian, you may not be the most powerful but you were one of my favorites.
Houndoom, you were such a good companion.

And all the rest of my Pokemon, I'll miss you, but I'll always look back happily at our memories.

Who knows?
Maybe I'll replace the battery and we'll meet again in the next adventure...
Farewell...

>>8748593
r/s/e us CR1616

>>8748626
>>8748613
Thanks.

>>8748617
>IVs, EVs
>Gen 2

The GBA games stop progressing time when the battery dies. You can still save just fine.

>>8748667
Gen 1 and Gen 2 had IV/EV, they just didn't work the same way.

>>8748667
You are retarded. IVs existed in gen I and II. And EVs are directly mentioned -
>Even if they're the same level, a trainer's Pokemon will be stronger than a wild Pokemon!
NPC in Vermillion, Red/Blue. Not an exact quote, but feel free to verify it.

The only thing is they were different. Diversification Values and Stat/Battle experience.

>>8748678
Yeah, I remember that gen 1 yielded maximum EVs rather than the 510 limit we have now. Imagine how OP they'd be in the metagame today.

Your bros can and do live on when you catch and raise a Pokemon you valued in the past. Data's data, but caring for a particular Pokemon doesn't need to be limited to one particular game.

>>8748690
>too retarded to learn how they worked in the past
>call others retarded for not being as retarded as you

How's that autism working for you, champ?

My Silver died in about 2008. But playing it on an emulator ain't all bad, you can fast forward through slow bits and FINALLY get Celebi.

Gentlemen, It has been a privilege playing pokemon with you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4LyoUGxVd8

>purchase Mega Memory Card
>create backup of save data regularly
>replace battery in cartridge when it dies
>restore data

Why so much panic?

>>8748722
do you have one?

>>8748735
Sitting on my desk right now.

Found this guide
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-replace-the-battery-in-a-pokemon-goldsilve/

Not the same guide I used, but it's the same process.

>>8748737
how many save files can they hold

>>8748722
http://www.amazon.com/MEGA-MEMORY-CARD-Game-Boy-Color/dp/B00002R108

>>8748696
Okay, let me break it down.
Stat experience was given at the end of each battle, giving you a certain amount of experience, capping at 65,536 per stat, based on the base stats of the 'mon you defeated. So fainting 655 mews, with 100 in all stats, would max out all stats. Vitamins gave 1,000 points to one stat per dose. IVs, called DVs in Gen I/II, were a number 1-31. These values determined shininess, and the Attack DV determined gender in Generation II.

Source: My fucking memory.

>>8748739
Depends on the game. Pokemon RBY or GSC? Plenty.

I once backed up my Gameboy Camera data on it just to see if it was possible. Took too much space though so I cleared it.

There's a visual indicator on free space at the bottom of the main menu for it. Starts as an empty horizontal bar.

>>8748750
so, in theory, i could have a save red, blue, yellow, gold, silver, and crystal on there all at the same time?

>>8748750
Also, I should add, my original red data is still on it. Still restores and backs up the save fine.

What's really interesting is that you can take a silver save, restore it onto a gold version, catch gold exclusives, then backup/restore onto the silver, and it works.

Don't use this for Yellow though. For some reason it fucks it up. Not like it's needed for Yellow anyway.

>>8748760
Yeah, that's what I did.

>my Silver battery died a few months ago
>I can't solder and I don't know anyone who can
>mfw

>transfer all my bros from gen 1 to gen 2
>have an unbelievable team in gen 2 of my bros, my favorites, and a complete Dex' with many a shiny to boot.
>Come back to them, after all these years.
>I was too late, they are gone.

WHY GOD WHY...I didn't even get to say goodbye. The last they will know of me...I left them alone in the dark...for a decade.

>transfer all pokemons to Stadium 2
>Change battery
>transfer back to their respective games.

>>8748820
You can get a soldering iron at wal mart for like 10 bucks. Find some junk electronics on the curb for trash pick up and practice. Soldering in a battery will be a LOT easier than trying to solder actual components though. The battery swap should be an excellent first time soldering project.

>>8747296
So I have only 10,000 saves till one of my DS games die..?

>>8748970
Basically yeah. It varies, of course. Diamond and Pearl are the most touched by this shit, for some reason, the flash saves are quite fucked up in these games.

>>8748980
I see. At least the TV in B/W tells us how many times we saved the game..

Is there any way to backup DS games?

>>8748990
The only way I know is using a linker and the Savegame Manager...

>>8748992
Linker = flashcard.

>>8748747
>called DVs in Gen I/II, were a number 1-31. These values determined shininess, and the Attack DV determined gender in Generation II.

DVs were 0-15 back then. Gender was based on Attack DV, with the lower numbers being female and the higher numbers being male. This would mean that for a species where 1/8 is female, an attack IV of 0 or 1 would yield a female, while an attack IV of 2-14 would be male.

A weird consequence of this is that, since shininess was also determined by IV's, and 0-1 attack IV's do not yield a shiny, certain species of pokemon cannot be both shiny and female at the same time.

My Red battery started dying a couple years ago.
My G/S ones are still alive and kicking.

Get stadium 2 and save all of them over there.
Then be sure to move them back after the battery of g/s/c is confirmed to work.
But if the battery of the n64 dies then you are fucked.

>>8749048
>N64
>battery

In runs on electricity

>>8749055
Please be trolling
The games have internal battery to keep the data safe when you turn the n64 off and put them out.
otherwise 2/10

>tfw you lost your gameboy advance and now you can't play your old games

>>8749083
>mfw when some nigger stole my gbc along with yellow and silver
Rest in peace bros...
inb4 its data not your bro etc

What if I saved a DS game like 9000 times, and then hard-restarted it? Will it still count as 9000 saves?

I know that feel. Just started up my Gold after several years...

NEW GAME

all lost... all is gone... like dust in the wind...

>>8749204
Forgot to say, Blue is still doing great, oddly.

>>8749210
The real time clock is what makes them die so fast.

>>8747296
>>8747296
>>8747296
i call bullshit on this, give me an official stating it, or something about it in the manual, anything to prove it and i'll believe you, if you can't then you're full of shit

i will however cut down on saving...

>Load up Silver, Still alive
Thank you based Arceus. Thank you.
I recently restarted a few months ago, I'm up to Red. I'm going to record this possible last victory on my 3DS. NEVAR FORGET

>>8749071
where?

>>8749233
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory#Memory_wear

>Yfw Nintendo releases DSi/3DS versions of the first two gens as downloadable content.

>>8749294
>Dat feel when Nintendo will never be that cool

>>8749301
>that feel when the first post you see is pony related
Get. The fuck. OUT.

>Implñying gen 4 and later is safe
HOW ABOUT I CORRUPT YOUR SHIT.JPG

>>8749294

I would pay for this, also this is possible yes?

>>8749311
>why is that Gif so popular agaisnt me...

>>8749315
ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE YOU JUST HAVE TO BELIEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>8749318
Can I just point out that it is a bannable offence to post pony outside of /b/ and /co/

>>8749321

>>8749301
>>8749315
I think Nintendo would do it, and it's totally possible.
Obviously every Poke fan would buy into it. Especially now that R/G/B/Y/G/S/C's batteries are being picked off.
So yeah, it's totally a plausible thing for them to do, yet I doubt it's crossed their minds yet.
I might fire off an e-mail to them, but I doubt it'll do anything.

>>8749301
aaaaaaactually...what would they have to lose? I'm not sure how these downloads work, but surely they could have you buy a code in some way, which would unlock this game
thus they'd get their beloved hypno money for something they wouldn't need to spend much on anyways.
If only we could somehow make them aware of their possibility

>>8749367
As I said, we could e-mail them?
But, that strategy usually doesn't work...

>>8749367
>>8749384
They will end up doing it do not worry
Probably with the next Pokemon game they will release a Pokemon 3DS with R/B/Y or G/S/C included

>>8748239
same <3

>>8749287
>Most commercially available flash products are guaranteed to withstand around 100,000 P/E cycles

So it's 100k, not 10k, no?

>>8747002
Nope.

Just seacrh for pokemon r/b/y/ g/s/c faggots in the store
that is all we can do

Ive reset my games recently anyway. Doesn't matter. I never cared much for gold version.

sapphire, my FAVORITE pokemon game of all time..

oh god hold me for a sec .... ;_;

...sapphire, I turned it on about a year ago afetr not playing it for 1-2 years and it said "the internal clock battery something, yada yada"
luckily I transferred all my bro pokemon over to heart gold or black


AND I DONT EVEN PLAY THEM ANYMORE
but, you know, theyre still there, not deleted

gave my ruby and sapphire carts away with my old brick ds to a poor guy i know
wiped sapphire for him to just play that, then gave him ruby with a file already started with some gyms beaten with mudkip

>That feel when my games and Gameboy will be just fine
:3

EVERYONE EMAIL THE SHIT OUT OF NINTENDO TO MAKE THEM REMAKE THEM AS DOWNLOADABLES!!!!!

>>8749522
Fuck yeah, I'll start a new thread for it.

>>8749522
not remake

straight rip, glitches and all