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;lol diz thred gon be gud 8^_)

>bigger market than apple
in the 90s maybe

>>139212779
totly not the omost vioboius samefaeg of the sentury

:\
^(thi swas the face i madde ewhn i rezlied this)

>>139212851
You seem
_______________________| <- This mad

It'll sell once it gets hacked at the very least

>>139212654
>So much for the future of gaming. Oh well, 600x800, no-AA, no proper control future,

Everyone on /v/ is like "LOL FUCK SONY! THEY ARE FINALLY GONNA DIE".

But the fact of the matter is, once Sony dies, gaming will too.

Nintendo has turned into a casual clusterfuck.

Microsoft caters to GAMURS with copy and past NFL and COD games, and also wont have anything interesting.

tl;dr when Sony is dead, gaming is dead

>>139213149
Are you seriously implying that Sony are the ones maintaining gaming right now? Really? I love my PS3, PS2, and PSP to death, but you cannot be this stupid.

>>139213149
But that's wrong, Nintendo runs the gaming market.

>>139213149
>implying sony caters to the core audience
>implying the casual audience isnt the only thing keeping the industry afloat

if sony was to die i would hope nintendo would swoop in and steal some of there developers. not sure it would happen since sony screwed nintendo over on the 64.

>>139213149
What is PS Move?

>>139213149
Nintendo is the only major company that isn't whoring themselves out to the Call of Duty audience.

And really, they've been the only first party to have consistently good games all along. Check out that Sony fighting game, its all second party, featuring Kratos and sackboy

>>139213149
Sony fanboys general? Sony faboys general.

I wanted the Vita to succeed because I think the hardware is better than the DS, and I'm pretty sure most people would agree on that point. I wanted games to be published on it. Somehow /v/ is angry at Sony for it not being supported, because people chose to buy a 3DS instead because it was more marketed or made by Nintendo. Because of that, 3rd party support abandoned the Vita, and people relish in Sony's financial despair. I just don't get it. When confronted on the reason for Sony hatred, they bring up advertising campaigns from years ago and the PSN hacking. I just don't understand.

>>139213495
theyre whoring themselves out to the Fisher Price audience instead. Always have

P....P...PC.. is..alive and w..well.....

Sony is the only one that treats video games as part of home entertainment for all ages, instead of a toy for babysitting children

>>139213495
> only major company that isn't whoring themselves out to the Call of Duty audience
no they whore themselves out to the casuals families

>the only first party to have consistently good games all along
this is just bullshit and you know it. They've had good first party games and bad first party games this gen

>>139213582
There are some exclusives on the way like Soul Sacrifice or whatever. Might fill the void MH has left for Sony, depending on how much content it has.
>>139213654
That is why the 360 is being marketed as a home entertainment center, that the new dashboard definitely shows. Its going to get more apps soon, probably tumblr and youtube support.

>>139213623

>>139213582
Games have always been better on the Nintendo handhelds than on the Sony handhelds.

>>139213785
monster hunter

>>139213586
Actually that would be Microsoft. Why else would there be 7 year olds playing Call of Duty and Halo?

God damn they'res already a SONY IS FINISHED thread on the board.

Just fucking go there.

>>139213785
>implying patapon and gitaroo man, or even ys

>>139212654

>didn't advertise
I thought this commercial http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kaag7XPKqtM was being shown everytime

>>139213003
This

>>139213586
Personally imokwiththis

Everything got super serious somewhere during the PS2/GC/XBOX generation. Timesplitters stopped selling, Final Fantasy went from goofy and colorful to brown and serious, even Metal Gear Solid seemed to have a shitload less inside jokes and the like in MGS4. Naughty Dog went from Crash Bandicoot to Uncharted (not that Uncharted is bad in and of itself). Capcom won't even acknowledge that megaman exists anymore...

Nintendo still makes games that aren't gritty brown and bloom fests, and I'm very thankful for that.

PC gaming will make a comeback. that you can count on.

fucking console niggots

>>139213149
PC will still remain the same

>>139214034
>crysis 2
>the shittiest game out of the two and one of the most generic FPSs to come out withing the last 3 years.

>>139213841
He means the parents AND the children playing you faggot

Well regardless, SCEA has apparently been dying for half a decade now, so this whole sinking ship thing is starting to sound like the PC gaming is dead thing.

>>139214134
and unmatched in graphics you fucking europoor

>>139214228
Oh please, the graphics were great but the game was an artistic mess. I'd rather play the original bloomy-as-fuck original.

>>139214228
>The graphics make up for it
Yeah no

>>139214228
my dump looks better then yours so that must make it good

>>139214281
>I'd rather play the original bloomy-as-fuck original.
YEAH BLOOMY AS FUCK, I KNOW WHAT BLOOM MEANS AND I'M TOTALLY NOT JUST LATCHING ONTO BUZZWORDS

The PSP also did very poorly around the world for at least the first year. It was also beaten out by the GBA at one point IIRC.

Although I think this has more to do with the fact handheld video game platforms are dying with Nintendo living off of a Children's toy maker's brand name alone.

hi /v/ don't mind us, just being the futures of gaming

>>139214527

The sad thing is you are right.

>>139214527
as much as i hate to admit it, i play on my iphone more just because its at hand 90% of the time. all the iphone needs to do is add buttons into the mix and they win

>>139213149
>But the fact of the matter is, once Sony dies, gaming will too.

The same could have easily been said when Sega quit the console race. But low and behold the industry still survived.

It's sad to see how hard Sony fell on their face with that one. It's reminiscent of PS3's early years. I don't think they're looking forward to cutting the price of the Vita, seeing how they took a huge financial blow when they were forced to cut the price on the PS3, right at the peak of the financial crisis. Now it would be even worse because the dollar is gaining momentum again. They're in a really tight spot. But it's their own fault... I haven't even held a Vita in my hands as of yet, but watched extensive hardware reviews, and in my opinion, the device simply doesn't offer enough. A top-notch web browser would be a good start, but from what I hear, it's the same useless piece of shit browser that the PS3 has. Sony merely reaps what they sow, every gaming device since the PS2 simply has this lukewarm feel to it, and I've been disappointed in the PS3 for the longest time, so it's hard for me to feel bad for them.

>>139214645
Then came along sony who is one of the shittiest companies out there.

sega was decent, but nothing great. I just want some nintendomination.

>>139214527
I hope phone games get better because I much prefer them to dedicated handhelds when out.

Also I fucking hope Android gets more support because fuck having to buy an iPhone.

Nintendo is the only company truly dedicated to the vidya. Sony and Microsoft have bigger things to do than play around in the console market.

>Sony
>Die
Bunch of delusional faggots and armchair "experts" in this thread

the sad part is the Vita actually has some great technology for the price, I'll probably buy one in the future when the price drops and perhaps there is a slim version available

>>139214742
>Nintendo is the only company truly dedicated to the vidya.
And they're losing money for it.

This does not bode well for the industry.

>>139214757
Dude, Sony has been bleeding money for years now. They can't keep this up forever. I don't think they'll die anytime soon, but maybe they'll discard SCE if the situation keeps going south.

>>139214695
>I just want some nintendomination.
I think it's stupid as hell the amount of people who want a monopoly on the console market

>>139214645

And gaming was worse for it too.

Actually Sega still has a big presence in Japan. A lot of arcades there are pretty much just Sega machines.

>>139214845
Well, to be fair, if one console manufacturer holds the monopoly, that just means tons upon tons of games for that particular console. Like SNES and PS2.

>>139214845

Seriously.

The market already consists of Copy and paste games where all they change is the number at the end.

Do people really think it would be better for one company to have a monopoly?

>>139214527
Feels pretty good. Like having a cancer removed. Casuals will have no influence on PC games.

>>139214882
Arcades are dying in Japan.

>>139214845
So? If everyone else leaves it makes it so nintendo gets to finally get a grasp n all the games and quality by throwing out shitty ones (see armored core) and nintendo will have control over developers making games. It sounds great to me.

>>139214915
Competition is the reason Nintendo employs first party developers to make games instead of capitalize on royalties from their platform monopoly.

>Sony's TV market has collapsed
>Sony's gaming market continues to shrink
>Sony's phone market is far behind its competitors
>Sony's tablet market is far behind its competitors

the hell do they make their money? selling walkmen in third world countries?

>>139214951

If by dieing then you mean one still on every other block then yea.

SONY should have seen the writing on the wall and cancelled the PSVITA. The PSP was only successful in Japan because it was easier and cheaper to develop for than current video game consoles. Now the PSP will suffocate the PSVITA to death in Japan, while phone games bludgeon the PSVITA out of the global marketplace.

i loved my walkman.. then i got a mini disc player..
never again sony.. never again

dreamscenario:
>sony dies, mircosoft dies
>everyone starts developing for nintendo
>casual games, core games, hardcore games
>everyone is happy with 1 console
>nintendo decides to put some money into their next console making it pretty powerful
>everyone is happy

fuck pc gaming

>implying handhelds aren't the most consistently childish platform

>>139215014
Actually even since back in 2008 many arcades have begun closing over there. Home consoles and the internet has pretty much rendered them redundant and kids prefer to stay home for gaymen, much like in the west, but arcades were only a thing here for a small time period.

I'm assuming you live in Japan and have such extensive knowledge of the matter to know that they exist on every other block.

>>139215135
you forgot:

>People have to be directly influenced by nintendo, people have to kiss their ass to get a nintendo seal of quality. If Nintendo doesn't like what a dev is doing they'll cancel their game.

See: NES and early Snes years.

>>139215012
Sony's products are still pretty big in East Asia.
Their misfortune is not related bad luck though. Everyone who owns recent Sony products like the PS3 knows that. Sony gambled away the trust of their consumers with plain bad decisions. They need to build up some reputation again, fast, before they shrink so much that one of their competitors can absorb them.

>>139215135
>can't host my own servers
>can't play community made mods
>can't interact with people like I do on the PC
>can't optimize or change my games the way I want
>everyone is happy

>>139215135

What will really happen:
>sony dies, microsoft dies
>everyone starts developing for nintendo
>or they all close up shop.
>since there is no competition, every one puts out shovelware
>game quality goes down
>slowly dies out

>>139213990
>Final Fantasy went from goofy and colorful to brown and serious

What?

The PSX era Final Fantasys were even grittier and more serious than the ones nowadays. Just because the visuals were more blocky, doesn't mean shit.

>>139214960
>>139214915
8/10
You're either young or trolling

>>139215135
Why is that a dream scenario? Do you not want diversity?

Is this Nintendo fanboy logic?

>>139215135
>sony dies, microsoft dies
>nintendo dies
>everyone starts developing for PC
>casual games, core games, hardcore games
>everyone is happy

>>139215135
Dream scenario:
>All consoles die
>Every game is developed for PC

>>139215209

Yes smaller ones have closed, but the decent sized ones are still going strong.

And "on every other block" was a slight exaggeration (that is pachinko) but they are still quite common and not hard to find.

They are not as rare as they are in the U.S. today, or hell even 10-15 years ago.

>>139215223
So, another golden age of gaming?

>>139215350
>All consoles die
>Every game is developed for PC
>Home PCs die
>All hail tablet gaming

nobodys going out of buisness or failing, shut up you idiots and play some games.

>>139215387
>NES
>golden age of gaming
>not MSX and Amiga. And way later ps2

>>139215223
Sounds good, considering how many great titles Snes had.

>>139215437
>Home PCs die
Whoa whoa whoa, how did that happen

HE HE HE

>>139214839
> they'll discard SCE


Why? It's the one part of their enterprise that is bleeding the least amount.

You really are an armchair expert.

>>139215243
>>can't host my own servers
Dedicated servers are a rarity even on the PC these days. Due to hackers and pirates, they will disappear entirely very soon, mark my words.
>can't play community made mods
Same issue as the dedicated servers, mods are dying, Valve is pretty much the only company left to encourage it, bombarding the online distributors with DLC is far too important for the publishers nowadays, with development costs reaching eight or even nine digits.
>can't interact with people like I do on the PC
I've seen a lot of improvement on that matter, by everyone except Nintendo. Maybe they'll get their act straight with their Nintendo Network. Every multiplayer game should include text chat, even on consoles... but you're definitely right about that.
>can't optimize or change my games the way I want
True. It's like comparing a home-cooked meal to canned food.
>everyone is happy
That will never happen anyway. But it has to get better than this, because right now, everyone is more disappointed with vidya than anything.

>>139215223
God forbid Nintendo has a quality assurance department.

>>139215135
>everyone has one choice
>better make it as good as possible then!
Do you see the failed logic. Monopolies are a problem for a reason.

hahaha you guys are so funny, go ahead and curse each other while I continue my swag all the way to the top of the gaming world

>>139215505
Macfags, friend.

It's happening already.

its just ps3 launch - handheld version
like someone mentioned, it its guaranteed moderate success if only from buyers intending to hack it

>>139215537
Well you have to remember how harsh it was back then....

>If you're doing something they don't like, it's cancelled
>make something controversial to an extent, you're kicked out
>Want to keep your game under wraps because it's YOUR FUCKING GAME
>you're out

They only stopped being retarded in the late Snes era.

>>139215618
This is my dream world buddy, macfags aren't allowed in my ideal landscape.

>>139215350
>the best scenario
Handhelds and PCs.

>>139215537
>NES still had the most shitty broken games made for it

>>139215135
AND WHEN NINTENDO CHARGES $120 FOR GAMES YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO DO FUCK ALL ABOUT IT BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THERE IS AND THEN SEGA MAKES A NEW CONSOLE AND UNDERCUTS NINTENDO AND SEGA WILL BE ON TOP

>>139215683
Why handhelds?

>>139215683
>handhelds
>as in multiple.
>when nintendo is the only company to get handhelds right and produce quality games for them

4/10 go home

>>139215135
Do people like this seriously exist?
Personally I like Sony more because they seem to understand that some people don't like gimmicks shoved in every game.

>>139215721
Oh god I remember the years of them charging 75 bucks for starfox.

>>139215756
>when nintendo is the only company to get handhelds right
Haha, good one. PSP with CFW is by far the best handheld hardware I've ever had. Nothing comes even close. You can say the library developed for the DS is better, but you're fucking stoned out of your mind if you think the hardware is better.

>>139215521
Really? But I remember their stocks having a massive drop in the first two or three years of the PS3 life cycle. It was a legendary shelf-hugger after all. The damage control seemed to have a positive effect, but still... I'll have a look at the numbers again.

>>139215756
>nintendo is the only company to get handhelds right
>DS
>3DS

Despite its nice library I still don't like the DS because of its design and quality of the overall games because of it.

>>139215839
>implying the 3DS isn't already better than the PsP

Get the fuck out of here sonygger.

>>139215738
Because
>keeps a cheap alternative for kids
>lots of games do better in a more personal environment like when playing a handheld
>not big enough to interfere with the PC so it can remain cheap

But you know, once the PC claims the market there would be drastic changes. Things to make PCs more user friendly and more services like Origin. There would have to be order placed.

>>139214947

>facebook games

Dream scenario:

>all publishers die, including Nintendo,Sony,Microsoft, EA, Activision etc.
>dev teams scatter and organize themselves, become independent
>old IPs such as Conker, Killer Instinct, Jet Force Gemini and Banjo-Kazooie finally can be used again, seeing as devs are dependant on Kickstarters and other means of financing, and that is what the people actually want, and not casual waggling sport fuckfests
>all is good in vidya world

mfw someone actually buying a vita

>>139215756
>this thread
>still doesn't see the importance of competition

>>139215968
>kickstarter

Yeah, no.

>>139215968
OR, kill Microsoft so those IPs you listed can be free to buy by publishers/companies that know the fanbase wants new games of those.

Microsoft hasn't done shit with those IPs

>>139215721
>Nintendo and Sega being the main console companies again, duking it out like in the old days

A man can dream

>>139213232
nintendo runs the rehash market

seriously, does nintendo even make any new interesting ips anymore?

>>139215968
>kickstarter
>Doing anything besides letting faggots take retards money.

>>139215968
>Only lists rare games

>>139215268
8 maybe, but 7 was wacky as fuck and don't even get me started on 9.

>>139216054
>>139216054
>>139216054

Sony, Activion etc. are also blocking old IPs:

Spyro, Crash, MediEvil, Ape Escape, all need new and good franchise entries, and should stop being rapped by gimmicky wagglefest shit

Every major publisher is an offender, and should pay.

>implying the dev teams wanted to butcher their beloved IPs and turn them into casualfests.

>>139216079
Dillon, Pushmo and Xenoblade

Your move

Just kidding, Nintendo doesn't make new games.

>>139215939
I'd prefer something akin to the PSP, but using a more open less proprietary operating system. I guess the functionality of say, android OS with the controls and hardware of a PSP, except instead of games being licensed off to a specific company like Sony, they would just be designed for Windows or whatever operating system the handheld uses so that it would be like PC where you can't monopolize the market because there are competing hardware manufacturers working on the same compatible operating system with lots of customizable modular hardware.

That would be the ideal anyways. The kind of universal platform that PC is, but with the variance and functionality as well as competition you can have branching from that, kind of like ATI and Nvidia or AMD and Intel. They compete against each other but regardless you can still play the same games with either, and the hardware doesn't stagnate because they're trying to one up each other.

>>139216079
Yes, quite a lot.
You're talking about Capcom.
>that feel when Inafune had to get himself in trouble to get Lost Planet and Dead Rising released

>>139215968
Oh look, one of two people who still think the Kickstarter system has a future.

I, for one, think the vidya industry will simply stagnate for a certain time. Many pubs and devs will die (many pubs and devs have died, and are dying, right now), and once the financial turmoil has calmed down a bit (that'll take years), we'll have a great era of games again, like in the 90s... lots of bang for your buck, originality, quality.

That, or the vidya industry will hit a wall and burn to the ground.

In any case, the status quo WILL fail. That's just a matter of time.

>>139215721
>AND WHEN NINTENDO CHARGES $120 FOR GAMES
What? Nintendo wouldn't overprice their games, they are total bros, stop trol--

>>139215968
has companies using kickstarter even produced a good game yet?

>>139216181
>8
>brown
GET
THE
FUCK
OUT

>>139215721
>Sega makes a new console

I wish, but they're pretty much bleeding money and still doing stupid decisions.

>>139216247
A bundle is $120. That's not bad at all.

>>139216245
People seem to forget that Kickstarter and Publishers will be a failure in our eyes no matter what so long as casuals are the main market and demographic.

>>139216202
Sony doesn't own crash nor spyro anymore, activision does.

Naughtydog and insomniac sold them off independently.

The guys that made MediEvil no longer exist because sony game production london was destroyed during the british riots. Ape escape is held by konami and konami are fucking idiots.

>>139216245
>>139216261

Protip: I said:

>kickstarter and other means of finances

Anything that keeps them away from huge megacorps.

Stop fixating on that one word, you faggots. You know exactly publishers are cancer.

Kickstarter might not be optimal, but it's a step in the right direction.

>>139216247
>SHAQ FU
Where's my wallet

>>139216217
>That feel when Inafune is finally free to make One Piece: Animal edition and Dark Souls: Alchemy edition

I joke, they both look awesome

>>139215534
>mods are dying

You are a fucking moron; there are over 12,000 mods for Skyrim alone.

You know nothing about PC gaming and it shows.

>>139216247

>A single, official controller sold for $15 retail.

I miss those goddamn days.

There's a reason Gaben won't develop a console. He definitely has the dosh to make it happen, but he knows.

Cloud gaming will devour the console industry.

>>139216346
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCE_Cambridge_Studio
The Medievil team is making the new Killzone Vita game while GG work on a new IP for the PS3.

PASBR is a good way to gauge interest in these old series.

I love Nintendo and I'm happy there will most likely always be FUN Nintendo first party titles, even if they are getting more casual so to speak.

But I don't wan Sony to die. I have had practically every console since the NES and Sony always had a place for me. I preferred the PS over the 64 even. I don't want to see them die.

Having said that I'm not buying the fucking Vita. Not a chance until there are a decent amount of localized games announced that aren't PS3 ports or shooters.

>>139216346
Ape escape belongs to Japan studio. It has never belonged to Konami.

There isn't a Ape escape coming any time since they have been constantly making games like Gravity Daze, Soul Sacrifice and The Last Guardian

>>139216346
Sony still owns Ape Escape, they just haven't done shit since the Move game came out.

They say they're working on AE4, but I doubt it.

>>139216379
>thinking about all the poor who won't be able to play both Soul Sacrifice and Kario: King of Pirates
Both games look cool as shit too. I finally got to see some gameplay and details on Soul Sacrifice and that's some cool shit.

>Thinking that selling 3DS at just below market costs is a fatal blunder
>Not realizing that gamers will have to buy games and all the nick-knacks to go with the system which will most likely make up for net loss for the system

I'm just saying if everyone buys at least one or two game to go with the 3DS then that's a most likely going to even things out in regards to loses for the system. If Nintendo is smart then they'll release an easy buy kind of game like Zelda or Pokemon for the system right away not only to drum up sales for the system but also because anyone who has the system already will be pretty much be guaranteed to buy the big name games like that.

The only real thing they're screwing themselves on is not releasing any actual games for 3DS yet aside from Ocarina of time, Tales of Abyss, and Pitt.

If they had released Pokemon B/W2 for the 3DS then I could pretty much guarantee sells would be up for the system as soon as it was announced for the next few weeks straight, it's just something that people are going to buy. Instead they released it for the outdated DS in what can only be called a blunder

>>139216358

>has companies using kickstarter even produced a good game yet?

was a genuine question, not intended to be taken as a jab.

>>139216379

By the way, is there ANY kind of info on King of Pirates? Seriously, haven't heard much from it, but the style is just so quirky and amazing. Seriously reminds me back from the Playstation days for some reason.

>>139216332
Cough

>>139216389
Skyrim/TES is an exception to the rule. Go ahead and show me all those BF3 mods. And I'm sure Diablo 3 will generate an incredible mod community as well [/sarcasm]

>>139216552
You seen the part where the teammate died and they sacrificed him for a super attack?

That made my dick hard.

>>139216557

In that case, no. It really only has gotten popular a couple of months ago, so we've got to be patient and wait.

>>139216552
Is that Gotick's true form?

>>139216283
Not brown, but serious.

>only competitor more or less doa
>great hardware, great price, great launch lineup
>still fail

only sony can fail this hard

>>139216247
>$70 for SSF and an evil deadpool game
>$65 for fucking Shaqfu

>>139216570
>tons of different playable characters
And that's about it. They're so quiet that that I'm sure Nintendo is telling them to wait until E3.

>>139216609
SURE DID BRO
SALAMANDER WAS COOL AS FUCK

Did you see that part when TIME MAGIC WAS CONFIRMED?

>>139216181
>>139216181
>>139216181

7 was far more serious than 10 and 13, by far.

It had some wacky scenes, such as the whorehouse part, but all in all it was a really somber experience.

>inb4 grafix were blocky

>>139216079

>rehash

there is that word again

>>139216752
AWWW SHIT TIME MAGIC

REMEMBER THAT PART WHERE ONE OF THE CERBERUS'S HEAD FUCKIN BLEW OFF?

>>139216656
GET
THE
FUCK
OUT

>>139216724
>iphone not considered a competitor
its the truth no matter how casual you think their games are

>>139216834
HOLY ASS LINK TO SALAMANDER.

I WATCHED THE YOUTUBE VIDS AND I MISSED THAT

>>139216834
WELL NO
I DID NOT SEE THAT
Please direct me too it good sir.

>>139216812
Yes, Sony is the only publisher that licenses shovelware. You do realize none of those are first party titles right.

>>139216812
Hey, to be fair, Antigrav was a good game.

>>139216247
On the other hand, $15 for a controller is pretty fucking nice.

>>139216923
>>139216896
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDE2m4P72eY
4:43 for Head blowing off from super punch thing
5:50 for SALAMANDER

>>139216972
It's cruel that they're so much more expensive now despite there being far fewer games with local multiplayer.

>>139216924
Buzz and Singstar are.

Why are these insufferable autists spamming in caps?

Isn't Soul Sacrifice a De/Da Souls cash in not even developed by From?

>>139217080
The only thing in common with Demon Souls is the people from Japan studio and the overall art direction.

>>139216556
>If Nintendo is smart then they'll release an easy buy kind of game

They did, it was called Super Mario 3D Land. And it worked, it's a multi-million seller than turned the 3DS around almost instantly. Then Mario Kart 7 gave it the kick up the arse it needed to hit Nintendo's beloved 15 million figure.

Basically, whenever Nintendo needs quick sales fast, they roll out Mario to fix everything. They've got New Super Mario Bros. 2 lined up for August, they've basically got Christmas won with that and Pokémon.

>>139216896
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJLto7Iay0YSHIT SON HERE YOU GO
AROUND THE 5 MINUTE MARK
TOP LEFT SCREEN
Ended that boss QUICK

>>139216924
Singstar is, but it's also fun as fuck at a party so I don't even care that there's plenty of it.

>>139217080
Soul Sacrifice doesn't play like DeS/DaS, at all. Its comparable to MH in the sense you and 3 others beat the shit out of large monsters

>>139216842
Why?
What's your problem?
This is the reason nobody likes tripfags.
FF8 is generally one of the more serious Final Fantasy games.

>>139217160
NIGGER STEP THE FUCK UP

I GOT QUALITY VIDEOS RIGHT HERE
>>139217030

>>139217079
Buzz is first party? Huh.

>>139216247
I dunno about that man, here in Germany I paid 80 Deutsche Mark for an N64 game, that would be 40ish Euros. Then again, the economic climate in both Germany / EU, and Japan, was much, much milder than it is now. Nowadays, Japan is on the brink of national bankrupt and Germany has to slow down the downward spirals of the weaker Euro countries by throwing money at them... economics suck, I'm glad I decided against studying them. Depressing shit.

>>139217238
Those are all first party actually.

Just look for the orange diamond.

GUYS GUYS

What if ALL of the 'top 100' game designers of the 1990's sat down at a conference and discussed how the game industry can return?

>>139217204
>This is the reason nobody likes tripfags.
You're just wrong, don't try and skirt the issue with ad hominem, it's not unbecoming.

Give it time. Sony will pull through this.

>>139217238
Actually, no. I just checked. Buzz is owned by Sony, but Relentless Software is not. My bad.

Singstar on the otherhand is all London Studio.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrklIDl3u5s&feature=related
part 2 and 3 in the sidebar.

Good quality of the whole SS conference, with some bitch commenting in English.

>>139217238

no but Sony greenlights the games and publishes them

its one of those grey areas I guess.

Though it's true that Sony's British studios shit out Singstar games like mad. I wonder if they sell nicely in Europe.

>>139217293
I agree it isn't unbecoming.

WOLFSHIEM is a fucking incorrigible faggot.

>Sony
>no games

>Nintendo
>no games

>Microsoft
>no games

What a terrible gen.

>>139217030
>dat quality
>watch more of the video
>that one blood sacrificing quick motherfucker
This game just looks like a lot of fun. I can't wait to see more of KAIO too.

>>139217392
Typo. Regardless, I'm sure you can think of something better than "he's a tripfag".

>>139217293
What I'm saying is that he's giving tripfags a bad name (I don't inherently think tripfags are faggots) by posting stupid shit like that.
By posting stupid shit, he gives people reason to shit on tripfags for being tripfags.

I'm not buying a vita anytime soon but :
>implying sales = quality

>Gravity Rush
>NA June 12, 2012
>EU June 13, 2012
Sony, you released this 3 months to late.

>>139217460
if anything wolshiem is one of the better tripfags along with BMAlex.

>>139217376
>no but Sony greenlights the games and publishes them
Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo all license and publish shovelware. I mean honestly, I cannot believe people complain about this. Oh no, shit games I don't have to buy are being licensed, boo hoo.

>>139217513
Please don't start this.

>>139217460
>What I'm saying is that he's giving tripfags a bad name
This whole thought process baffles me. Tripfags and anonymous posters alike are different people that should be judged based on their own merits and not as a collective. You're free to think I'm a faggot or anyone else is but you should formulate your own opinion based on what they say and not because of some ridiculous stereotype.

>>139217204
It's more serious but it's hardly the most serious and even the most serious is still fun and wacky at times.The only bad part of FF8's story is Squall after Disc One.You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, most likely have pretty crap standards for being the cause of this whole conversation, and honestly I don't want to deal with that kind of stupid right now.

That's why I'm telling you to get the fuck out. Or, you know, at least change topics.

You guys realise that Sony's main interest are not video-games, right? They're one of the biggest companies for electronics worldwide and video games are only the small part of it.

>>139217630
>They're one of the biggest companies for electronics worldwide
You realize it is the year 2012 now right? and Japanese electronics do not carry the weight they did in the 90s right?
It is all about Korean electronics

>>139217510
>preorder at Gamestop
>get challenges to do
>also get this outfit
This almost got me to preorder.

>>139217376
I'm in America and I've probably spent around $400 on Singstar. Four discs and a shitload of DLC.
They're really fun party games.

>>139215653

I think they didn´t that to prevent a new game crash.

>>139217720
Plus two story missions.

>>139217513
Well he sure was acting like a faggot.
>>139217598
But that's the thing, most people on /v/ think that way and it just adds to the shitposting.
>>139217616
I never said it was the most serious. I said it was one of the more serious FFs and that's true as most of the series was pretty fucking wacky.
Really only 2, parts of 6 and 12 were more serious than 8.
Not sure about 13, i don't know much about it.

>>139217630
And you realize that it is one of their main focuses, right?
After this years performance they're cutting back pretty much everything except games and a couple other things.

I'd like to give Sony another chance, the Vita can become great if the right steps are being taken. So far they are failing at appealing to the PSP userbase. Maybe they should make a Vita that can read UMDs? Excluding backwards compatibility is equivalent to giving the finger to loyal customers. What Sony needs right now is people who will adopt the Vita now, selling software is secondary anyway right now, so backwards compatibility combined with better sound and a better screen would be a great reason for PSP owners to get a vita - a good method to achieve impressive system sales. They could ditch those stupid proprietary memory cards and implement memory sticks instead while they're at it.

This Vita is failing so far for the same reason the PS3, and Sony's mobile phones and tablets, haven't done too well - too much greed, bad decisions, unappealing price tags. Learn from your mistakes, goddammit.

why the japanese hate west so much? they still butthurt about the nuke?
both sony and nintendo doesnt give any good game that translated to english.
and they fucking complain to pirates
sony

>>139217630
Thanks to the technological boom in Korea, Korea companies can make good quality products for cheaper while Sony pushes 3DTVs like idiots

>>139217630
SCEA is a branch of Sony, SCEA has its own respective segmented specialized work forces, they each have their own employees with varying degrees of expertise and competency. The way people sit down and evaluate an entire company over the failings of one or more person or condemn them as a whole simply baffles me. I like their hardware and I like a lot of their games. Why people sit down and relish in thousands of people getting laid off and being in financial stress over something a few people were responsible for, be it the PR department or security department is beyond me.

>hating on drawsomething

How friendless meet faggot can you be

>>139217816
>But that's the thing, most people on /v/ think that way and it just adds to the shitposting.
I think people shouldn't have to feel responsible for misconceptions from other people. Better yet I think people shouldn't feel responsible for anything other than obeying the rules and portraying their opinions.

>>139217853
God damn 3D is plaguing the Japanese electronics market.

You know they have 3D cameras now right? 3D fucking cameras. Where the only time you can see the image in 3D is on the fucking camera.

>>139217698
no one would buy korean if japanese offered the same stuff at the same price.

>>139217963
But they don't...
Why are you being so dumb?

Blind fanboyism is the reason you want any company dead.

The bottom line is, both Sony and Nintendo produce top quality games. If you can't see this, you're not a true gamer. You're really not.

Both companies can be accused of multiple retarded shit decisions they've made, but they still produce AAA titles and exclusives.

Nintenyearolds are a majority here on /v/ so they're more vocal, but don't kid yourself, dear lurker. The fall of any of these 2 companies would be a devastating blow for the gaming industry.

>>139217912
I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying that's how it is and it contributes to /v/'s shittiness.

>>139217834
They could even just do that UMD Passport thing they allowed in Japan, but the problem is getting publishers on board for that would still require payment.

It's a shame because the Vita has serious potential as a handheld; it has a lot of strength, multiple control inputs, good online store and judging from how they worked with Valve, the PSN's open to outside systems like Steamworks. There's so much good there they just need to use it.

>>139217963
I kind of doubt that actually.
Sony no longer pulls the reputation it used to have in the 90s.

>>139218023
op is complaining that they should do, but don't

OP:i think sony should step up their game
you:hurr but they don't

if they did, this thread wouldn't have existed dickwad

>>139218097

>>139218137
Also should be noted but not as important, Korean influence and culture has been spreading in Japan a lot. K-pop, Korean fashion, all that shit.

>>139218136
I'm replying to one specific person saying who said a stupid person. I'm not talking about the OP.

>>139217834

Sony's Mobile Communications is the division that pisses me off most

They announced these GORGEOUS phones in like, what February?

Now its May and we still don't have release dates for most of them. Hell, we don't even know if they're coming to America. We don't even know carriers or prices.

You can't announce a phone 4+ months before launching it. The market moves way too fast for that.

The phones are sexy as fuck but SONY WON'T LET ME BUY ONE.

you can't make money if you don't sell shit

>>139218026
>True Gamer
Not to be that guy, but what does this even mean? What are the qualifications to be able to call yourself a "true" gamer?

>>139218026
I don't want any company dead. I'm just saying, it'll happen if they keep repeating the same stupid fucking mistakes, and it upsets me to see them disregard the voice of the consumer. Sony is particularly guilty of this.

Introducing a brand-new system to the market, with proprietary, grossly overpriced memory units, a pathetic launch line-up, no backwards compatibility... of course nobody except the hard core of the PSP fanbase wants one. What for?

>>139218242

>looks like a standard smartphone a la Samsung Galaxy S2
>only with a shitty OS

welp

>>139218275
I think the context he's applying it to is a person who's played games long enough to have an educated opinion on either company, and not a complete retard who sides with coorporations.

>>139218334
I thought Sony Ericcson uses Android these days?

>>139218321
PSV isn't backwards compatible? Goddamnit.

>>139217816
Ah, sorry, man. I misread that. I thought you said it was the most serious. I'm really sorry about that.

But I disagree with what you said. I think 12 is the most serious one out of the bunch. Either way they are all light hearted and managed to tackle different themes and style of fantasy over the series.
Ivalice is their best created world, I'd think,

Final Fantasy never went series, they just tried different settings and started making more complicated stories. It's just as Japan went downhill with this whole "otaku" culture crap it brought down the writers with it.

>>139218334

>looks like a standard smartphone

nigger please:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTTMRJZ8lOQ

>>139218406
You can play digital copies of psp games, and in the unseeable future psone games.

>>139218407
>>139218407
>>139218407

>Final Fantasy 7
>light-hearted

my sides

it's the most somber and depressing one of the bunch

>>139218406

It is.

Runs 95% of PSN games.

And it will be getting PS1 support....eventually.

We all know how fucking slow Sony is.

They should stop announcing shit months/years before release.
\

>>139218471
I'm not touching PSV until it gets CFW and I'm not touching the 3DS until it gets Flashcarts that can play 3DS games.

>>139218439

>'Tis very speshul, because the way it's manufactured

>close window

>>139218406
It is. The problem is it doesn't take UMDs and they charge for a service to transfer the UMDs you register online to your PSN account that you can download from the PSN onto the Vita.

They need to not charge for the service, AND bring the service to the west

>>139218407
>I think 12 is the most serious one out of the bunch
Well we share an opinion on that at least.
>>139218490
It had a lot of zany parts as well as a lot of serious parts, but like the series as a whole, it was fairly light hearted.

>>139218406
Backwards compatibility as in taking the UMD of your favorite PSP game you've owned for years into your Vita. I see that the UMD is a dead medium, it's been ever since it was introduced, but why not include it, at least in the first Vita? They could have disregarded it into the first or second revision, very similar to what Nintendo did with the DS and GBA compatibility. I remember when every GBA owner wanted a DS, at least the ones who didn't have an SP yet.

>>139218407
>>Final Fantasy never went series,
I meant serious
But yeah, they got some pretty bad writers for 10 and 13.

>>139218554
Holy shit dem grammar mistakes. Sorry. I'm better than that, it's just that I'm really fucking tired.

>Sony dies
>Armored Core moves to PC along with Dark Souls
>Nintenbabbies and Microsoft slaves can't find anything to hate about it anymore

Stay mad you assdamaged casuals.

>>139218541
They don't charge for it, play having the game in a psp while signed into your psn account, you can get discounts for said game on psn.
Some games get dropped from 8000 yen to about 2000, some games go as low down to 300 yen.

I'd get a Vita but it has no games to play. None. I don't want to play a fucking Uncharted game.

>>139218551
I agree.

>>139218615
Is it that time now?

>>139218439

I'm not the person you quoted, but I gave it a watch any way. Nice touch on the auto-adjusting brightness, that's unique.

Everything else? Standard smartphone. I can do most of this shit on my shitty Samsung Wave.

I'm really banking on CFW for the Vita because I had a bitchin chickhen CFW PSP that was loaded with emulators and PSP game iso's. I showed it to my cousin who was with his soon to be wife and her brother, who was a faggot 420 junkie who stole it before moving to Utah. I only spent 50 bucks on the PSP but I waited knowing the PSV would be backwards compatible, but if it aint gonna get CFW anytime soon I might as well just go and dump it on an old PSP anyways.

>>139218615
Do you have to insert AC into everything?
Its a damn fine series sure, but it's not related to every single topic.

>>139218625
The only reason at all you should pay for the same game twice is if they are worried about people renting games and registering them. Maybe some UMD attachment for PSP games, but no Vita game would use it.

>>139218615
>From moves to PCs
PFFFFFFTTTTT
They're move to Xbox 360 or whatever fills the gap if Nintendo won't work for them first. Forget about Lost Kingdoms?

>Fuck's sakes Sony, you didn't even advertise it

OP confirmed for stayed inside his basement for months

>>139214947
>We want Angry Birds audience

After CoD, you know it's going to be Angry Birds.

>>139218752

And Armored Core will STILL be better than anything Nintendon't and Microsuck could churn out.

>>139218752
Just don't respond to him.

He is the only person on /v/ who actually has autism.

>>139218687
The Armored Core guy is like the Heroes of the Revolution guy but for riling up Nintendo fanboys.
He jumped in at a terrible time though. The thread was picking up.

>>139218710
That sounds impracticable to both Sony and the user.

>>139218674

Well yeah it's an Android phone.

I said it LOOKS gorgeous.

Samsung's shit is consistently ugly. Cheap plastics in unappealing shapes

this whole time, if you wanted an attractive phone, you had to get an iPhone. Sony's finally making an alternative here.

I really want consoles to die after playing Dragon's Dogma, I mean, holy fucking shit. Something like 540p at 24fps average, consoles only. I'm normally not a graphics fag but that shit was unplayable. I could not get passed it.

>>139218852
Yeah, he's kinda like the tekkenfag.
Cept tekkenfag was actually funny.
I miss tekkenfag and his superior limb based combat.

>>139218915
That does look pretty cool.

>>139218710
Yeah, it wouldn't be clever for them to simply let people download digital copies of their UMDs for free onto the Vita, since everyone could just register the entire PSP library of a friend to their account and play them all for free.

This problem wouldn't exist if they had implemented a UMD drive into the thing. I'm certain it would have been possible, even despite with the touchpad on the back. There are slot-in UMD drives IIRC. I'm certain the Vita would do a lot better if it had UMD capability, after all I've heard from a whole bunch of people who bought a 3DS for the sole purpose of playing their DS collection on a 3DS screen.

>>139218815
That's wonderful you have so much faith in From Software but the thread is going nicely. Don't fuck it up.
Also, a bit of news for you:
>From Software wants to revive the King's Field series on Android/iOS
>says that they don't want to cater to casuals and will make a hardcore experience on the system

>>139218851
>He is the only person on /v/ who actually has autism.
You seem confused, this place is like home base for autism.

>>139218968
UMDs are a really shitty format, and I think by not including it on the Vita was their way of admitting it. The vita is already thick enough, I would rather it not have it and destroy the already small battery life of like 5 hours.

>>139218998
You're wrong. Antisocial tendencies, depression, ADD, maybe. But autism?
Autists can't even comprehend videogames that are beyond Minecraft-tier in complexity.

>>139218986

I'm happy for IOS gamers then. They'll get a decent piece of vidya.

>>139218242
But, the Xperia S is released and I know someone who own one.

>>139218915

It looks all right, I'll give you that, but I personally don't think it looks as good as the iPhone.

Not that it's a bad thing though. There are quite a few people like myself who aren't into buying products purely on aesthetics but would rather buy those that perform better.

I took the wrong leap with my Wave. Shit could have been fucking decent but Android just completely kicked it's ass so they focussed more on Galaxy.

>>139219107
>Autists can't even comprehend videogames that are beyond Minecraft-tier in complexity.

What?

Do you even know what Autism is?

>console market dies due to mobile gaming
>people realize that mobile games are only suitable for playing on a fucking bus
>casuals move away from gaming
>no more faggots in online games

>>139219102
I'm aware of that, but it's a bummer not to have true backwards compatibility.

Well, it's just Sony reaping the fruit of yet another of their moronic decisions. Why didn't they use cartridges? Too paranoid about piracy, hm? I think making their system even shittier to make it slightly more pirate-proof actually made PSP's pirate problem even worse in the long run.

>>139219107
Autism is a very broad spectrum. What most /v/ users would be diagnosed with is asbergers, which isn't that serious compared to low functioning autistics.

>>139219252
Yes, it's a severe mental disease. Most autists can't even write their own names on a piece of paper.

>>139219107
Uh, what you said there was the complete opposite of autsim.

>>139219428
Have you never met a med to high tier autistic person? They barely function as it is.

>>139219363
I don't know, I mean in terms of hardware alone, I think the vita was completely in the right step. Although causing some backlash by pretending UMDs don't exist, they responded to the criticism of the lack of dual pads. Then while trying to make a full digital handheld with the PSPGO, they now offer a complete digital library for the Vita, while still allowing physical copies to be made.

NOW IF THEY DIDN'T FUCK UP WITH THE MEMORY CARDS........

>>139219403
Most psychologists would refuse to count Aspberger's as a real form of autism. Some even call it complete bogus. I think most of /v/'s users are just very lonely, and solitude takes its toll on one's mental state over time. That doesn't mean we're mentally sick though. Perverted, perhaps.

>>139219409

Cool, so you don't actually know what autism is.

>>139219861
Get out.

>>139219409

A lot of autists understand and view systems in ways you can't even imagine.

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about

>>139220060
That's a fallacy. You are terribly misinformed. The autist you imagine doesn't even exist.

Umm, I'm going to buy whatever I want and play it because I want to. Don't know why you faggots are worrying over shit you can't control

>>139220114
>That's a fallacy.
First of all, that's not even the right context for the word, and second of all, no it's not wrong.

>>139220160
I've been here too long... your pathetic attempts at trolling may seem like a pathetic little gnome trying to pinch me and missing at every single attempt.

>>139220293
scatch the "may"
fuck I'm tired.

>>139220114

It's funny because it's clearly you that has created your own image of what an autist is without any grounds in reality whatsoever

>>139220526
Care to elaborate what an autist is in your opinion? Are you sure you want to embarass yourself more? Who am I kidding, as if you had anything worthwhile to use your time for.

But the Vita has lots of expensive hardware, why wouldn't people want it ;_____________;

>>139220754
Launch price for the Vita is the same as the launch price for the 3DS, and you're getting better hardware, really though, this shit is unreasonable. Shit launch lineup? Expensive at launch? Wow, sounds exactly like the 3DS and every fucking console released since 2005.

Yes, it's dumb but people act like it's new.

>>139220718

I honestly don't give a shit, I'm just informing you that you are factually wrong. There are countless books and websites on the subject. I suggest you get a fucking clue about things you discuss otherwise nobody will ever take you seriously.

>>139220980
You seem upset. I'll take that as further proof of my point.

>>139221032

Me being upset somehow invalidates facts? You are a moron and a simpleton.

>>139221272
There are still people left over from the "U MAD" craze who don't realize how incomprehensibly stupid it is.

>>139220968
You forgot those memory cards, which I guess you can throw in with the "expensive" part. Also the whole thing about putting files on said cards that I don't know too much about

>>139221272
>Me being unable to provide proof for my idiotic assertions and getting mad for no reason somehow invalidates facts? You are a scholar and a saint.

FTFY

>>139220968
You're implying that disapproving of the Vita means I have to love the 3DS. Hell no, I own one and I regret owning it. I gave it to my bro, who does nothing but play a copy of Pokémon Pearl he bartered for a working N64 controller.

>Yes, it's dumb but people act like it's new.
They don't do that. In fact, I'm under the impression they act like they expect most consoles to fail. And why not, analysts (no, not fucking Pachter) unanimously agree that both Sony and Nintendo tried to light fires in a damp basement. This didn't surprise anyone who has a decent understanding of teh vidya industries.

>>139221672
>You're implying that disapproving of the Vita means I have to love the 3DS.
Then I apologize.

This whole trend of releasing consoles before having a solid launch lineup is completely retarded and I wholeheartedly agree in that respect, but it's only possible because people actually fucking buy the things during said time when there are no gaems,

>>139221805
>This whole trend of releasing consoles before having a solid launch lineup is completely retarded
Amen to that. It's especially hilarious seeing this kind of idiocy from Sony, it's like they completely forgot the disaster that was the PS3 launch. When will there be a new console with a jaw-dropping launch lineup? Been a while. I'd like to be an early adopter without feeling like an idiot, and with a bunch of good games to enjoy with my brand-new system, which would also serve as a great tool to convince my accquaintances to purchase a unit of their own. Why do console manufacturers know so little about the things they're trying to make money with?

>>139222040
>I'd like to be an early adopter without feeling like an idiot
Well in fairness to the PS3, being an early adopter meant being the only one with a backwards compatible PS3.

Regardless though, it is funny how "early adopter" with game consoles has become synonymous with "stupid".

Sony is old school and has a conservative outlook on console gaming, to a fault
>Fully invest in exclusives until they're popular enough to buy out 1st party
>Solid hardware
>All ages
>Sheer number of gaemz don't matter, as long as you try and get the right ones down the pipeline
>Dualshock
>End of console lifecycle beats all others
>In other words, Sony is late to the party and overstays its welcome

>>139222228
You find that funny? I think it's rather sad.

>>139222361
It's not really that sad because even when consoles had solid launch lineups, early adopters were still usually punished by paying premium launch prices and still having a less robust launch lineup.

>>139222447
True, naturally early adopters are at a disadvantage, go ahead and make your jokes about me having paid 250 bucks for my 3DS, but being an early adopter can be a good experience... being the first guy to have the new thing, being able to present it to everyone who's interested, feeling like a pioneer, you know. But instead...
>Well, beating OoT for the 27th time was quite nice, let's look at the upcoming releases- oh wow. It's fucking nothing. I want to kick my own ass right now.

>>139222340
>Solid hardware
..."solid" how?

>>139218986
Hello Joe, how are you?

>>139222794
Comparatively to other consoles?

>>139222730
I don't understand why companies seem to go out of their way to punish early adopters.

Did the manufacturing costs for the 3DS really drop a hundred dollars over the course of less than a year? I don't think so. They punished early adopters because they wanted to profit from hardware instead of price aggressively and profit from software royalties.

I'm just saiyan this Sony hatred is fucking stupid considering all these guys are out to get you at the end of the day. They're fucking companies, not your best buddies, they're gonna do what they can to milk you dry and if it makes you happy than it's a coincidence.

>>139222993
No, as in, "solid" in terms of resistant to failure? Because both the PS2 and the Playstation had the highest failure rates short of the 360.

>>139223158
I'm not >>139222340 by the way, I was just guessing.

Huh, the Ps1 and Ps2 had high failure rates? You learn something new every day. I always assumed they were pretty resistant to failure because I have played my Ps2 daily since release.

>>139223293
No, the PS2 had a major problem with its lens becoming misaligned, same as the Playstation. I have a friend who had a system rigged up where he essentially had to suspend his Playstation in the air and rotate (and sometimes completely invert it) in order to get it to read discs.

>>139223570
that sounds like some crazy future shit

>>139223293
>>139223293

PS1 didn't have a high failure rate, but PS2 had severe problems with the DVD drive. Something to do with the lens/laser if I'm not mistaken.

Obviously it wasn't as high as the RROD (that was 30% or something) but with the amount of PS2 sold, even if it's only 5% - 10% of the PS2s affected, that's a huge fucking number.

The sad thing is, Sony actually has good studios. I was surprised to learn than Jeanne d'Arc and Medievil Ressurection for the PSP were licensed by them.

Let's keep the shit-slinging going.
Even Japan knows the Vita is tanking harder than CN Real.

>>139216206
The Last Story and Pandora's Tower you stupid cunt.
Also
>The Last Guardian
>2012

Yeah you keep dreaming

>>139217457
He's a dipshit too.

>>139226726

>Gravity Daze in bottom tier

Such a troll image it's not even funny.

Also:
>mario above mh3g

Japan you just went full retarded.

>>139216346
Spyro and Crash werent sold.

in the PS1 days Insomniac and Naughty Dog looked for publishers and werent able to find them until Universal Entertainment got in.

Universal Entertainment made a deal with them which ended about when the ps2 came around.

When the deal ended Universal had gained rights to both Spyro and Crash forcing Naughty Dog and Insomniac to leave and make new games like Jak & Daxter and Ratchet & Clank.

>>139229530
Ratchet is undoubtedly a better series than Spyro, and I think Crash ran his course same with Jak.