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ITT:Movies with terrible messages

The Incredibles
>If you are not naturally talented a something then give up
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:34 No.15246779
Do The Right Thing
>violence is okay, as long as there's a point to it
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:35 No.15246794
greece
>fuck being yourself, be who he wants you to be
actually that one is pretty good
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:35 No.15246799
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>thank you for smoking
......

nope honestly can't think of anything
>> lewis 03/26/11(Sat)23:36 No.15246805
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the wizard of oz
>it's ok to kill people if t helps you get home
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:36 No.15246809
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the hunchback of notre dame
>If you are ugly you will never get the girl, she will always got for the hot idiot
>> Anonymous !ERRORUrDmk 3/26/11(Sat)23:37 < No.15246821
Jaws
>it's okay to go around blowing up sharks indiscriminately
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:37 No.15246826
The Social Network

>No matter how much money you have or how smart you are, you'll always be a socially-inept retard and you'll never have any real friends other that the ones on the Internet.
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:37 No.15246829
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The Beauty and the Beast

>Yeah you get the message
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:37 No.15246830
9001 different war movies
>AMERIKA FUK YEA WE WON WW2 WITCH STARTD WHEN DOES KRAUTS NUKED PEARL HARBOUR FUK YEA!
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:38 No.15246832
>>15246779
>violence is okay, as long as it's against whitey
fixed that for you
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:38 No.15246834
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>If you bitch about censorship and get shot people will think you're a pretty cool guy and forgive/forget all of your douchebaggery.
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:38 No.15246836
Rubber

>No reason
>> lewis 03/26/11(Sat)23:38 No.15246841
>>15246830
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VovRTt0hAPk
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:38 No.15246842
>>15246821
you make an interesting point. they really should have stayed the fuck out of the water and the shark would eventually go back to the ocean probably.
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:39 No.15246843
>Being john Malkovich

You would ever want to be in John Malkovich's head.
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:39 No.15246853
Hackers

>buy a mac, they are great for hacking!
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:40 No.15246857
Problem Child 2
>be an annoying shit while your dad is trying to get laid
>he won't beat the shit out of you

way to totally fuck up my childhood movies
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:40 No.15246861
Any Action Movie
billions of dollars in property damage is ok if you catch the antagonist
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:41 No.15246866
The Princess and the Frog

>If you make a movie about a black princess, people will bitch about it no matter what you do.
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:42 No.15246872
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Hot To Trot
>taking advice from talking animals nobody else can hear is a good idea
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:42 No.15246874
>>15246866
na we just realized having them be frogs for most of the movie was a pretty bad idea.

I own the movie regardless
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:43 No.15246885
She's the man
>identity theft
>transvestitism
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:43 No.15246887
>>15246872
horrry shitt, I forgot about this movie, thanks anon!
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:44 No.15246888
keeping mum

>if people give you shit or get in you way, beat them to death with a frying pan and hide them
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:44 No.15246890
Charlie Bartlett
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:45 No.15246896
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>Mental retardation is humorous and should be looked upon with envy because it gets you laid.
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:45 No.15246899
Any Michel Moore film
>America sucks
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:45 No.15246902
>Taxi Driver
It's okay not only ok to murder people you consider to be bad, but society will reward you for it!
>> Anonymous !ERRORUrDmk 3/26/11(Sat)23:45 < No.15246903
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The Last Starfighter
>Keep playing video games because your skills might be important one day.

>>15246842
Exactly! Close the beaches!
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:46 No.15246911
>>15246903
but its July 4th
>> The Muffin !.KuBPFKrDQ 3/26/11(Sat)23:46 < No.15246917
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If you kidnap a retarded child, keep him in your basement, allow him to get involved in organized crime and then, when he needs you the most, simultaneously abandon him and expose him to gruesome images you too can be universally considered a "really good guy" by every man and his doggy.
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:47 No.15246920
The Perfect Score

>It's okay to fail the SAT and drop out of high school because that means you're just being yourself

I'm probably the only one who remembers that movie, though, to be honest, I only remembered it BECAUSE of the shitty message.
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:47 No.15246921
The Next Three Days
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>>15246911
lol
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:48 No.15246935
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>>15246755
WTF thats your impression of what this movies message is?
>> KOZ !!n414dW6hO 03/26/11(Sat)23:48 No.15246937
"CATCH ME IF YOU CAN"

>YOU SHOULD NOT DO WHAT YOU LIKE AND WHAT YOU ARE GOOD AT FOR A LIVING BECAUSE IS BAD AND EGOTISTICAL, UNLESS YOU DO IT FOR A GOVERNMENT AGENCY UNDER A PAYROLL.
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:48 No.15246941
Black Swan

>doing drugs, stabbing yourself and being batshit insane will help you become a better dancer
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:48 No.15246944
>>15246903
Holy shit, The Color of Money had the same message, it must be true!
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:49 No.15246952
>>15246809
It's one hell of an improvement from the book, which was:
>if you are ugly, society will never accept you and you'll die sad and alone.
>> The Muffin !.KuBPFKrDQ 3/26/11(Sat)23:50 < No.15246959
>>15246952
Also corpse sex.
>> Odin !jerkpchxws 3/26/11(Sat)23:51 < No.15246978
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>>15246920

>Implying
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:52 No.15246990
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Unthinkable
>torture is good for America and stops terrorism
>torturing then killing innocent women in front of their family is good for America and stops terrorism
>torturing then killing innocent children in front of their family is good for America and stops terrorism
>not killing children in cold blood is the Liberals letting the terrorists win!

seriously America, what the fuck?

>mfw this whole fucking movie was actually made
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:52 No.15246995
Jumper

>It's perfectly fine to steal things for a living by using superpowers. It's not okay to try to stop the people who use superpowers to commit crimes and prey on others, especially if your movement has a religious context to it.
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:54 No.15247010
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>Assholes win at everything.

true point is true
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:54 No.15247014
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>>15246902
I didn't think that the message was that its ok to do that, but that NYC is so fucked up they even high-five deranged mass murders.

...or, NYC will fuck your mind so badly this guy starts to make sense.
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:55 No.15247020
watchmen

in a time of near complete political instability between two nuclear superpowers, each with enough nuclear warheads to bathe every inch of the planet in nuclear fire 800 times, staging an attack by one superpower on random cities across the planet will lead to world peace.
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:55 No.15247025
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Even if your
>White
>Rich
>blond haired
>blue eyed
>beautiful
>and DISGUSTINGLY SHALLOW
You can STILL get ahead in life, no matter WHAT those ugly "Brains" think.
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:55 No.15247027
>Ocean's Eleven
>or any other heist movie

It is okay to steal from other people if you want to, fuck hard work!
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:55 No.15247028
>>15246902
but they weren't people...

they were Americans
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:55 No.15247036
>>15246978
Scarlett Johansson's panties too.

But mostly the shitty message.
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:56 No.15247040
Pulp Fiction

>Being a murdering criminal is okay as long as you say really flowery things and have long winded debates about menial subjects and go to 50's themed diners
>but if you just want to do a beefy black man in the butt, ohhhhh, you're EVIL and deserve to DIE
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:56 No.15247042
>>15246941
>doing drugs, stabbing yourself and being batshit insane will help you become a better dancer

uhhh yea, that is pretty much how it works
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:56 No.15247046
The Saw Series
>Murdering people for mostly petty reasons isn't hypocritical if you build a machine to do it for you.
>> The Muffin !.KuBPFKrDQ 3/26/11(Sat)23:56 < No.15247048
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>If you're fat you are not entitled to a regular boyfriend, only entitled to a fat one who "likes brownies too".
>If you're fat, you will be the second fiddle, if there is a group of four girls who go out and suddenly one cannot, you can substitute for her for that one night. However, it is impolite to refuse your position as a reserve friend and should subject yourself to be treated like an object if it makes hotter girls feel satisfied.
>When the other three, hotter girls enter the club, they will be shown in focus where you will come in last and be out of focus, because you will ruin the director's vision of a hot entrance, also you're not allowed on the poster or DVD cover art.
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:56 No.15247054
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Catfish

>Don't ever trust anyone you meet online, ever.
>>EVER
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:57 No.15247060
>>Star Wars:ANH
Never trust computers.

>>Taken
France will rape you.

>>Oldboy
Koreans are vengeful and horny.

>>Mercury Rising
The security of an entire nation is far less important than some autistic kid.
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:57 No.15247070
worlds greatest dad

>jumping in a pool naked at a school will make you feel better
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:57 No.15247072
2001: a space odessy

>fuck you logic, that the point
>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:58 No.15247078
>>15247060
>it's OK to kill little kids for AMERICA!
>> Ad 08/05/11(Fri)03:00 No.19151774
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>> Anonymous 03/26/11(Sat)23:58 No.15247081
The Little Mermaid

>you should disfigure yourself to make yourself more attractive to someone who wasn't interested in you to begin with

The short story is even more depressing because the prince marries some other girl and Ariel dies and turns into seafoam because she can't bring herself to stab him to regain her mermaid form.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:00 No.15247112
>>15246866

The Princess and the Frog

>You can work hard all you want, but your dreams will never actually come true until you marry a rich prince.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:00 No.15247121
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2081

>Punishing individuals for having unique traits is a bad thing. Also, equality in every sense of the word wouldn't lead to a utopian society.

My idol would disagree.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:01 No.15247136
>>15247081
i love how Disney takes a cautionary tale and misses the WHOLE FUCKING POINT

UNRELATED
new Alice in Wonderland

the beautiful younger princess should get everything, whilst the rightful heir should get nothing and deserves to die a lonely death for being ugly
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:01 No.15247139
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Men are knuckle-dragging horndogs that only care about sex and are never looking for companionship or an emotional relationship of any sort and women just have to accept that. Women, on the other hand, only ever look for romance and are never interested in a purely physical relationship.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:01 No.15247145
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>>15246995
>>15246995
i thought it was that no matter what this dude is a bitch
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:01 No.15247148
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>Serial murderers are cool and therefore more than deserve a lighthearted montage during the ending credits.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:02 No.15247156
>>15246755
The Incredibles is a thinly veiled metaphor of why capitalism is superior to communism. As an homage to comics made in the midst of the Cold War, that's probably my favorite part of the movie.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:02 No.15247158
>>Unbreakable
You might be a superhero, maybe. Go try.

>>2012
Save every last person, even if it means killing everyone.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:02 No.15247163
>>15247136
I did feel bad for the red queen. the stuff with the queens could have been done better.

alice was done perfectly imo.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:03 No.15247172
>>15247148
wasn't he a child rapist and child murderer?

i'm thinking that he was wrongfully convicted, because despite being creepy, he didn't kill that little girl or do anything violent the whole movie... perhaps the medication and therepy worked?
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:03 No.15247175
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>>15247025
Facts of life.

Diary of a wimpy kid
>Be an utter ass
>ruin friend's life
>break your best friend's arm
>Frame him and get him fired
>Never say your sorry
>Bro's for life
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:04 No.15247183
>>15247139
o rly now
>> The Muffin !.KuBPFKrDQ 3/27/11(Sun)00:04 < No.15247184
>>15247081
In that case the book is better because it goes from you SHOULD change your appearance to please others to you SHOULDN'T, if Ariel dies it becomes a cautionary tale not to be a vapid whore or... you know... you'll die.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:04 No.15247188
>>15246829
stockholm syndrome's my favorite.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:06 No.15247210
>>15247156
What? The heroes are a communistic nuclear family unit who contribute in proportion according to their natural ability and the villain is an inventor who creates a fantastic new technology. It's the opposite. The message is that communism is the one true way.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:06 No.15247217
The Matrix
>routinely murdering helpless police officers, innocent security guards and random civilians and blowing up skyscrapers and nuclear power plants to achieve your goal of destroying the lively-hood of two entire sentient species living symbiotically in relative peace is acceptable if you look cool while doing it
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:07 No.15247224
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Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory

>You can be batshit insane and still run the most successful corporation on the planet
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:07 No.15247234
Signs
> keep your children physiologically and psychologically sick because it helps you to fend off alien invaders
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:07 No.15247239
Kung Fu Panda

>If you are fat and like eating a lot of food you can stick your nose where it doesn't belong and outdo people who have been training their whole lives just for that one opportunity
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:08 No.15247242
This is a depressing thread.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:08 No.15247244
>>15247217
in their defense, the agents would've accessed and controlled any of those civilians in an instant if they had been left alive.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:09 No.15247263
Welcome to the Jungle
>what? you dare introduce industry to a poor country and drastically improve their lives? DIE MOTHER FUCKER!
>Also, take this cultural artifact ans sell it on the black market or a one off boost cash, you'll need it now that you killed your only source of income!
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:10 No.15247282
>>15247244
Yeah...like everybody in that building they blew up with the choppa.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:11 No.15247287
>The Invention of Lying

>oh, won't this be a nice, light, humorous romp through a wo-YOUR RELIGION IS A HOLLOW LIE

>Anything that's made up is a lie. Even if it's made perfectly clear that it's made up and didn't really happen, it's still a lie and you should feel ashamed of yourself.

Also, less intentionally,

>Love is a lie that we tell ourselves. Anyone who looked at relationships rationally without lying to themselves would see that relationships really boil down to a sort of Eugenics.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:11 No.15247296
toy story 3
>a teenage boy should still keeps his toys in a box in his room and care about them
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:11 No.15247301
Forest Gump

>If you're a retard and you're in the right place at the right time, you will become extremely rich and successful. Just passively drift through life like a feather on the wind and everything will be okay.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:12 No.15247312
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KOMPOOOTAH EVIL!
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:13 No.15247324
>>15247296
I wonder how many kids are going to grow up to become hoarders because of the Toy Story trilogy?

>I can't get rid of any of my possessions ever because I might hurt their feeeeeeeeeeelings
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:13 No.15247331
>>15247287
meh, eugenics isn't the main factor. it's more about validating your existence by having someone else there and also finding your fix of appreciation and approval.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:13 No.15247332
>>15247224
Actually, that's true.

Though, it's impossible for a rich person to be insane. They're just "eccentric."
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:14 No.15247342
>>15247287
>film made in Europe by a European
>pro 2000 year old god

CHOOSE ONE
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:14 No.15247344
>>15247244

the cops who went to arrest trinity at the start stayed human for quite a while, even though smith knew she was up there, she could have just ran away from them

and the agents wouldn't even be after them if they weren't straight up committing acts of terrorism

meanwhile the agents themselves never once kill an innocent person on purpose, they've probably saved thousands of civilian lives by killing the rebels they have
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:15 No.15247352
Life of Brian
>having a genuine heartfelt belief in the divinity of Jesus Christ of Nazareth and knowing that he is the saviour of mankind and following his message is a system of belief which deserves to be cruelly mocked and attacked and hopefully disabled. Satan rules. Satan rules the Earth! Satan rules the Earth forever! nyahahahahaha! nyahahahaha!
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:15 No.15247360
>>15247331
I was talking about the message that The Invention of Lying puts forward, which seems to be that most relationships boil down to Eugenics.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:15 No.15247365
How to Train Your Dragon
>Play with deadly wild animals

Cloverfield
>FILM EVERYTHING

To Kill a Mockingbird
>Defend blacks in the 1930's, see how it goes down

The Iron Giant
>Fly into the path of an incoming nuclear warhead
>Become emotionally attached to sentient alien weapons

Total Recall
>Go batshit insane when you get what you ask for

The Sixth Sense
>Promote and encourage schizophrenia in children
>Blame self for batshit insane retard shooting you

Fight Club
>Fight Club
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:16 No.15247376
>>15247352
i thought the message was "don't just follow things without thinking for yourself"

apparently, thinking is anti religion, as is telling the truth
>>15247287
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:16 No.15247386
>>15247352
If you think that's the message of Life of Brian you're an idiot.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:17 No.15247388
Transformers
>Get bullied around then get laid when a bunch of 1970s American Muscle Cars from a kids show come to life and protect you
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:18 No.15247408
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>If you revolutionize cinematography the content of your film immediately becomes irrelevant.

Avatar also applies.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:18 No.15247413
ITT:Angry Americans claiming that thinking and the truth are evil anti religious propaganda
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>>15246755

>mfw
WRONG

Syndrome wasn't told to stop because he wasn't Super, he was told to stop because he a) was a kid in a WARZONE at great risk of injuring himself and then b) became a homicidal maniac.

Watch the damn movie.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:18 No.15247425
>>15247344

Lol, I just realized The Matrix would never ever have been made after 9/11. Maybe that's why the sequels sucked so bad, it wasn't cool to stick it to The Man by killing cops anymore...
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:19 No.15247432
Hot Tub Time Machine

>The ends justify the means
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:19 No.15247446
>>15247432
abuse your bastard kids!
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:21 No.15247475
the hurt locker

>people in the army and enjoy it more than reality are easily compared to drug abusers
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:21 No.15247477
>>15247148
Defend your wife, go to jail for it.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:21 No.15247479
>>15247418
Too bad about the line of dialogue where the super fatsos bemoan the fact that if everyone has access to Syndrome's technology they'll only be normal rather than special. It kind of makes your argument impossible.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:22 No.15247493
Watchmen
>Kill thousands, save millions, blackmail the rest = MORAL AMBIGUITY

The Dark Knight
>Be a vigilante
>A silent protector
>A watchful guardian
>A dark knight

The Prestige
>Kill friends wife with own stubbornness
>Be an asshole to wife and sabotage former friend overly antagonistically and with needless violence
>It's ok you're the good guy

The Descent
>Spelunking unexplored caves isn't the completely and utterly awesome

Scarface
>Don't live the American dream, or you'll end up dead
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>sacrifice is a last resort
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:24 No.15247530
>>15247479

Specific line? Because all I remember is Syndrome himself saying "and when everyone's Super, no one will be."

Of course, his plan for this is the perpetration of mass murder followed by selling highly lethal weaponry all over the globe.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:25 No.15247547
>>15247408
This.

>"Oh it's ok that it's racist because it changed cinema forever"

No, it's not, it's a nasty, vile little film that actively undermines blacks and doesn't deserve the time of day.
But the connection between this and Avatar I didn't figure out before, but now that you bring it up it's absolutely spot on.

>"Oh it's OK that it's shit, it changed cinema forever!"

It's still shit.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:25 No.15247550
>>15247342
>>15247413
>implying there's anything special about Europe or Europeans
>implying that The Invention of Lying's argument is actually good and isn't literally just "Your religion is a hollow lie"
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:25 No.15247552
Avatar:Failed Disney movies would be better if they were set in space
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:26 No.15247566
>>15247418
>>Syndrome wasn't told to stop because he wasn't Super, he was told to stop because he a) was a kid in a WARZONE at great risk of injuring himself and then b) became a homicidal maniac.

Yeah, that completely explains why Mister Incredible allowed his own children to engage in the kind of dangerous, lethal behavior he wouldn't let some random kid participate in. Makes sense.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:26 No.15247572
>>15247530
Line 241 in the official script.

That's what's so offensive about The Incredibles, that they had to pair Syndrome's philosophy (capitalism) with vile acts to make being idiots who didn't have to work for their power (communism) seem palatable
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:27 No.15247580
>>15247547
Well, it's really hard to study the development of film without studying Birth of a Nation because so many things that would later become standard in film making started with that film.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:27 No.15247581
Diary of the Dead
>There is NO EXCUSE to put the fucking camera down
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:27 No.15247585
>>15247479
Everyone will be normal, rather than special. Not just the supers.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:28 No.15247597
Empire Strikes Back:
>Your father is an asshole. Kill him.

Return of the Jedi:
>No he isn't

Sucker Punch:
>OMGWTFBBQ

Terminator 2:
>Always do what your mom says, or the former governor of california will kill you

Aliens:
>moms are scary when they're mad. Also, penis mosters.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:29 No.15247605
>>15247572
The sad thing is that these are probably your actual opinions on political economy.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:29 No.15247612
>>15247580
Yes, an important film, but not a film I like nor a film I consider good.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:29 No.15247614
Kill Bil vol 2

> it's ok to kill an elderly man who gave you a job and looked after your child while you were put in a coma/ spared you life after you betrayed him cold heartedly,

he also prevented you from making the mistake of living a lie with your new hick future husband
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:29 No.15247617
>>15247597
I dunno. That Terminator 2 one seems spot-on.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:30 No.15247629
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>>15247210
So not right. They were extraordinary and told that they need to hide to make everyone equal. You know that message they repeated several times: "When every one's special, no one is." Some think this is kind of related to Ayn Rand and objectivism. Definitely not communism
>>15247418
Holy crap I've run into a few threads that insist that Syndrome is the sympathetic one. I drives me crazy. He was a malignant narcissist.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:31 No.15247656
>>15247550
Invention of Lying sucked. Was a lame film with a lame premise that was pulled off... lamely.

But there is nothing inherently wrong with that message. Seeing as there is so much religious propaganda and anti-atheist morale in most of the drivel Hollywood spits out these days, it would be nice to see more anti-religious messages coming through.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:32 No.15247664
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>If you can't be a macho alpha then you might as well kill yourself, and hardly anyone will care that you did
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:32 No.15247666
>>15247493
>Kill thousands, save millions, blackmail the rest = MORAL AMBIGUITY
you are and idiot
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:33 No.15247680
>>15247656
>Hollywood
>anti-atheist/religious propaganda

How's the 1920s treating ya?
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:33 No.15247695
>>15247629
>Holy crap I've run into a few threads that insist that Syndrome is the sympathetic one. I drives me crazy. He was a malignant narcissist.

Thank you, Syndrome is clearly antagonistic. His crimes were driven by a petty, self-absorbed reason and were truly atrocious. His evil acts are in no way forgivable or justifiable, given that his motivation was so incredibly pitiful to begin with.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:34 No.15247701
>>15247629
he isn't, Syndrome is performing evil acts, they have him do this in order to make his opinion seem evil, it is a film funded by the upper class to give people the idea that improving yourself and hard work leading to rewards is evil and that you should "accept your fate"

it's character assassination on an idea
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:35 No.15247718
>>15247680
So you think a Christian bias hasn't been painfully apparent in mainstream American cinema since the 1920's?
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:35 No.15247734
>>15247695
>>15247572
>>15247530
>>15247479

>looking for deeper meaning in a kids movie

only on /tv/
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:36 No.15247753
>>15247629
The stupid commie writers had to make Syndrome threaten babies to establish his villainy, they couldn't do it just based on his philosophy (which was elevate everyone via technology)

The fat commies wallowed in fear over using their powers in public and justified it in the way cowards do. When someone threatened to take away their secret advantage, they went batshit.

The Incredibles is really a vile fucking film, once you get around the baby-threatening.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:36 No.15247755
Batman Begins:
> Violent schizophrenics who dress up in costumes and beat the living shit out of people are awesome.

the Ring:
>child abuse is bad, mmkay?

the Grudge:
>spousal abuse is bad, mmkay?

South Park, the movie:
>shit fuck piss fuck damn shit crap fuck Saddam is more evil then Satan. Fuck!

Zack and Miri make a Porno:
> sex is the answer to all your problems.

Inception:
> GO DEEPER
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:37 No.15247757
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>>15247734
>taking a movie at face value
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:37 No.15247766
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>>15247666
>you are and idiot
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:38 No.15247774
>>15247718

BWAHAHA! Seriously, can we have some examples of this "pervasive Christian influence" (inb4 Passion of the Christ), beyond some ambiguously Christian themes?

What next, Jews are under-represented in Hollywood?
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:38 No.15247780
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Avatar

>All western civilization is evil especially white people in the military.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:39 No.15247782
>>15247629
He does seem like the anti Stark. A lot of comic characters are the opposite of this, above normal people going above their own shit to become heroes.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:40 No.15247802
>>15247757

yes, cause it's a KIDS MOVIE
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:40 No.15247803
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>>15247774
>he thinks Hollywood isn't blatantly pro Christian
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:42 No.15247828
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>>15247803
>he thinks it is!
>mfw
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:42 No.15247836
>>15247753
The same fat communist pigs made A Bugs Life, which is basically the manifesto of communism stuffed down childrens face holes. Capitalist society is portrayed in the form of ants, the proletariats, and the grasshoppers, who are seen as evil and antagonistic throughout are the cruel bourgeois upper class who exploit the workers they rely on. Fuck, it's as if they don't even try to hide their fucking obvious communist bullshit.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:42 No.15247837
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>MFW the doccu-drama about Charles Darwin was too controversial to be released in America

>Evolution
>too controversial
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:44 No.15247850
WALL-E

>Shirking your responsibilities is okay as long as you're getting some hot robot pussy
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:44 No.15247856
>>15247837
I'm not even clicking on that thumbnail anymore. It just depresses me too damn much.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:44 No.15247862
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>>15247734
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:45 No.15247864
>>15247753
I was going to write a whole long interpretation... but you do remember how he murdered something like twenty superheroes, right?
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:46 No.15247875
>>15247547
Does historical relevance mean fucking shit to you people?

Get out of your own fucking head for once.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:46 No.15247885
>>15247836
i thought it was an anti caste system pro science movie
>>15247828
jpg
from a show about Christians
where god has been featured several times
where one scene showed god sitting with Budduh, and god was god but Budduh was just a guy
>>15247803
animated gif
with an alien eating ham

that settles it, it is pro christian
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:46 No.15247888
>>15247837
What the fuck is the story behind this picture?
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:47 No.15247902
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>>15247836
The biggest joke is there is no form of government that works as long as the people who want to lead are the ones who shouldn't and the one who should don't, Or as I like to say there is no form of government that works as long as humans are involved.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:47 No.15247905
>>15247774
Christian themes are readily apparent. If you fail to notice a clear christian bias I doubt there's any point arguing with you as you would likely consider my casual observations of christian themes pedanitc or over-analyzed.
It's only natural that in a market like cinema, that has to appeal to as many people as possible to reap the largest audience, they will exploit christian views in America, which is increasingly pro-christiantiy, according to statistics based on the last few years census.

I can only stress that if you don't understand even this basic concept of media I cannot be bothered arguing with some one as uneducated as you. If that came across as harsh I am sorry but I am only being logical.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:48 No.15247926
>>15247850

Well this is just true.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:49 No.15247943
>>15247885
>from a show about Christians

Of course, because the mere presence of Christians must make it a pro-Christian film.

What next, the Lives of Others was about a Stasi agent - so it's obviously endorsing an intrusive Communist state!

>where god has been featured several times

So...war films with Hitler in them are pro-Nazi?

>where one scene showed god sitting with Budduh, and god was god but Budduh was just a guy

I'm being trolled. I have to be.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:50 No.15247950
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The Green Mile

>Big, black convicts are the friendliest people you will ever meet
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:51 No.15247970
>>15247902
I hear you bro. There is nothing more mature or riveting than someone who has reached the rare and unprecedented conclusion that humans will never reach a stage where a more enlightened form of government will ever work. I don't often come across people with that view, but when I do they're typically really smart and well educated.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:51 No.15247977
Fireproof:
A good solid film about the trails and tribulations of marriage. Underated because of its pro-religious bias.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:52 No.15247991
>>15247864
You know why he was driven to insanity right?

>I can do what I want because I am special. You are not special so you cannot do what you want even though you wanting to fight crime is no less justifiable than my reasons for doing it.
>Which ultimately boils down to: A random genetic quirk means I am better than you
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:53 No.15248001
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>>15247977
>Doesn't know how to greentext
>Underated

Mon visage
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:53 No.15248004
>>15247864
no he didn't none of it was real. it's a story and nobody really died.

thus, the ideas and philosophies taken on their own merits is what is being discussed.

the story is the story tellers interpretation of people with those philosophies within the situations and confines of the movies scope. the writers chose to show the idea of self improvement being represented by a mass murderer and attempted baby killer, and the idea of accepting the world as it is and being anti change as super heroes.

it was NOT pro Communist, it was, if anything, pro Fascist, with the people in positions of privilege and great advantage triumphing against the evil "normal" that was "evilly" trying to improve his standing and the lives of all people in the world.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:54 No.15248015
>>15248001
That was not intended to be in green text...
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:54 No.15248021
>>15247970
I wouldn't consider my self smart, but I understand the funny foibles in life. I find Douglas Adams a great scribe of our time, and he writes about this point I made in Hitchhikers guide a bit.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:55 No.15248027
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>>15247701
No. He was a narcissist. Intro: he just claims I'm your partner. What was earned about that? He just wanted it so he thought he should have it. He had as much right to be Incredible's sidekick as I do to walk up to Marissa Miller and declare Im your boyfriend. His hard work and accomplishments underscore that malignant narcissism. He exemplifies, not the spirit of self-improvement and autonomy, but a Nietascheian will to power. The same kind that inspired Hitler. He killed dozens of people to build his machine. Then to make himself feel good he let it loose on a population, putting many thousands more at risk. And you think this is self-improvement. Destroy, threaten, deceive and kill all to make yourself feel better. Its what you deserve because you want it.

>improving yourself and hard work leading to rewards is evil

His work wasn't evil because of his ideas; his evil was his work.

>>15247753
Not sure you know who you're calling a commie. See previous post and get back to me >>15247629
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:56 No.15248043
>>15247991
Oh well that's fine then, his actions are totally justified.

Furthermore he was shunned by Mr.Incredible on only one day, and quite rightly too. His treatment of the child was perhaps too harsh but certainly no excuse for his later actions. Mr.Incredible notes that he had signed autographs for Buddy and done things with him on many other occasions. Buddy got in the way of his work, could have gotten himself killed and disrupted Mr.Incredibles activities. It had nothing to do with him being powerless.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:56 No.15248047
>>15248004
>against improvement
>pro-Fascist

Oh God I love it when you talk politics /tv/
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:58 No.15248059
>>15248027
>He had as much right to be Incredible's sidekick as I do to walk up to Marissa Miller and declare Im your boyfriend.

Hey, wanna go out with me?
>NO! AND YOU SHOULD NEVER NE ALLOWED TO TOUCH A WOMAN! YOU ARE NOT BORN INTO THE MILLIONAIRE LIFESTYLE LIKE ME!


years later

Hey, i'm a millionare now, wanna go out?
>YOU ARE NUVO RICH! THAT DOESN'T COUNT NOW I AM GOING TO DEVOTE MY FAMILIES FORTUNE TO DESTROYING YOU THEN HAVE YOU KILLED!
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:58 No.15248061
>>15246779

No, the point of that movie was that if violence is used against a white person by a non-white, then it is totally fine. Also, if you are white, you are a horrible person.

standard spike lee dribble.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)00:59 No.15248077
>>15247991
Except his callous disregard for anyone other than himself and mr incredible pretty much caused the entire suppression of superheroes.

Because he acted like he was ENTITLED to interfere, bom voyage got away, an entire train full of people almost died, and the idea that superheroes weren't worth the good they could do for the trouble they caused was given an extreme amount of credence.

His plot wasn't some sort of mental break, it was consistent with how the character was established. Callous, self-centered, egotistical, short-sighted, and reckless.
>> Bojangles 03/27/11(Sun)01:00 No.15248088
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Billy Madison
>A semi-retarded manchild should run a major company as opposed to an intelligent professional because of nepotism.

The Lion King
>Scar is somehow an asshole for trying to rescue the Kingdom from being run by some egotistical lion cum who is clearly unqualified for the position.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)01:01 No.15248093
>>15247836
Still a bit off base, because the movie was about, the uppers and the lowers, but it was also mainly about the extraordinary individual/s whom society has labeled strange and unfit. The most creative and gifted ant in the colony was nearly driven from his home and lost everything he had.

Could be about communism, or it could be about accepting innovations, eccentricities, and individualism, which are most definitely not communist tropes.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)01:01 No.15248099
>>15248061
different fag here, before someone says 25th hour, spike lee clearly wrote it, then in response to accusations of racism, arbitrarily flipped the roles of the entire cast.
>> You Space Bastard, You Killed My Pine! !duOJsU36YQ 3/27/11(Sun)01:01 < No.15248101
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Hunchback of Notre Dame
>Even if you're nice at heart and have good intentions, if you're ugly, you'll never get the girl of your dreams
>EVER
>If you have a noticeable physical ailment, expect people to patronize you and never treat you as an equal.
>> Anonymous 03/27/11(Sun)01:04 No.15248127
>>15248004
>it was NOT pro Communist, it was, if anything, pro Fascist, with the people in positions of privilege and great advantage triumphing against the evil "normal" that was "evilly" trying to improve his standing and the lives of all people in the world.

Fair enough, if you are a delusional little prancing fairy momma's boy idealist (no offense meant)

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